Trump’s indictment is just another boost to further polarization of America, more and more republicans see this just another way Democrats are weaponizing justice system to deal with opposition (honestly I cant blame them), and when this very weak indictment fails, many Democrats will claim that it is because Republicans have packed the courts.
No mater what happens now, both sides will be unhappy with outcome. Question is, can we survive as country if we continue on this path, or are we already at point of no return.
I honestly hope that this will all end, not with death of USA, but with death of corrupt DNC and RNC, both parties are rotten to the core (DNC more than RNC), and sooner we get rid of them, the better.
Somewhere in America, a careerist Republican DA is already plotting to take down Gavin Newsom. Given Newsom’s numerous business interests and documented history of playing fast and loose with the law, it shouldn’t be hard.
Ordinarily I would agree but there are exceptions to every rule and this is one. Too many Democrats have escaped accountability, any accountability, for so long they are completely, emboldened. Just think Hillary Clinton screeching in Congress "[W]hat does it matter now?" That was in reference to the death of an American ambassador, and 3 good men there to protect him. A foundation of the rule of law is that justice is blind and in the opinion of many Americans, including me, that is not true. This is truly a threat to our Constitutional republic.
My son was active military duty at the time and those words “what does it matter” were why I could vote against her. If she was so careless with an ambassador in a strategic region, her care for troops and a conflict outcome were zilch.
JoAnne, my heart grieves for all the fine men and women--including your son--who have served so well a country--and more specifically a governing elite-- that cares so little for them.
But I guess it has long been that way. See, Vietnam.
The entire sentence, was not “what does it matter“. Remark was that the arguments presented by the Republicans were not helpful. What mattered was finding out the exactly what happened and making sure it never happened again.
Her entire remark was that the important thing was the people who died, investigating it properly, and not sham that the Republicans were running.
You didn’t vote for someone because you believed a partial quote.
She care deeply about what happened and not the nonsense going on in the Senate chamber.
I detect hypocrisy: the notion that the rule of law is sacrosanct––an obvious and integral part of our county's foundational principles––is also ignored by those advocating selective prosecution within the "progressive" criminal justice realm. It flies in the face of intellectual honesty that parts of the Left want their political rivals to experience "justice," but not citizens deemed members of protected classes who engage in law breaking. Wanting to have it both ways is the definition of hypocrisy.
It would not but legitimate investigations/prosecutions are absolutely warranted. As is the Rule of Law is absolutely under assault. The chill is palpable.
Best post today, we need to give them with a big stick but it’s proving very difficult when the deck is stacked against you. I fear that with they way they scam the elections they are going to be there forever God Forbid!
And, the power of the Clinton's is waning. They are quickly becoming old has beens. But there are PLENTY of right wing folks out there that would cheer on any indictment of either one of them and there is always a DA/AG out to make a name for themselves.
If I were an AG/DA that went after the Clinton's I would say strait out in my press conference that people who cross the Clinton's end up dead. That I expect that I will be a target for mischief. Put it out there. If anything does happen the Clinton's would be looked at hard and then other AG/DA types would be infuriated and terrified to let that go.
TWO wrongs? Look. IF..... If Trump, Newson, Hillary, Joe, Hunter.... have committed a crime they should be indicted and punished. Period. So far, Trump is the only target of an out-of-control DOJ and Soros-backed prosecutors and legislators.
If this is another witch hunt (duh!) to keep Trump from having another crack at dismantling The Swamp, and if (as suggested by a poster) 'Dems' consider a vindication the result of Rep-packed courts, IN NEW YORK, then there needs to be a voter IQ test.
I'm an independent voter, but there are NOT two sides to what's happening in America today. I'm going to bitch about what I wrote in the early days of Bari's work, and that is that sooooooo many articles go something like this: 'I'm a progressive, even supported Bernie, always voted Democrat.... But even poor little 'ol ME was cancelled.' But what is ALWAYS missed is contrition (at least from moderates), the "I'm sorry" for continuing to vote for a party that allowed itself to be abducted by a radical group of socialists, the likes of George Soros, and woke 20-something misguided ideologues.
The Republican party has its fringe, but are still that - a fringe. But Dems (e.g.) recall socialist on the San Fran School Board and appoint even more socialists. CA wants to recall Newson, but they can't look in the mirror and vote for REAL change in leadership........ [cont]
[cont] I struggle with the Washington Uniparty, but Dems will not be "voted out of office" until the large group of traditional (moderate) Dem voters - the majority of Dem voters - wake-up and stop empowering a cancer intent of destroying this country thanks to their blind votes.
Trump was not going to be my choice for 2026 (have been pulling for DeSantis). But crap like the Trump witch hunt is making it hard to vote otherwise.
The "I'm sorry, and "the not doing it again" never seem to come on the scene.
As for Bari Weiss, I give her and her colleagues strong marks for taking the risk, reputationally and financially, to bring The Free Press online in to the highly compromised legacy media.
Terence, it would only be "wrong" to go after Gavin Newsom (or Hunter Biden, or Jim Biden, or Joe Biden) if they have not committed the crimes they will/should be charged with...we shall see...
And by the way: the way CA votes now, with mass mail-in balloting, extended periods to vote, and extended periods to count the vote, no Democrat is ever going to lose a major statewide election any time soon.
Pacificus, in past times we would not have gone after Jim or Hunter or the Clintons or even Newsome or Joe Biden himself. Short of murder or treason it would have set a dangerous precedent and it would have opened up Pandora's Box. It would have combined the judicial system with politics with all the risks that entails.
But, with this indictment of Trump, that time is gone. It is now the wild west.
Let's be clear, Hunter and Jim and probably Joe Biden have committed ethically egregious acts. Converting those into criminal acts would not take much imagination. The same could be said of Newsome. And, since these people have all traveled and done business across the country, there is very likely a way for some state prosecutor or DA to find a way to criminally charge them without getting nearly as creative as Bragg has. Would that happen in CA? Almost impossible. Could it happen in MT, or FL or Texas or hey, even Arkansas? Yep.
Arkansas could do something similar with the Clinton Foundation with Bill and Hillary. If they did any fundraising in Texas or FL that would open up avenues there as well.
Newsome has done business and fundraising in all kinds of places. That opens up avenues as well.
I could also see this being an intraparty issue. You get one democrat running for the White House in a tight primary.....well....take out the competition with an indictment even if you think that the charges might get tossed on appeal.
THIS is why we have traditionally not ever charged former presidents or candidates for the White House. But those days are over. Bragg put them to an end. Just like with the filibuster, this move could very well come back to bite the democrats.
Good heavens, sir. You are being willfully obtuse.
If the prima facie evidence that you on the left continue to present to entrap Donald Trump is sufficient for him to be dragged into court, the prima facie evidence against Joe, Jim and Hunter Biden is more than enough to get them before a federal judge.
Please have at least a modicum of intellectual honesty and consistency.
Look, CA Democrat Rep Swalwell slept with a Chinese spy. Anything happen to him? Not until the R’s retook the house and sidelined him. Then he took to twitter and acted all wounded.
It's interesting, because from what I understand, many members of Swalwell's own party consider him an incompetent camera whore. But they wouldn't do anything about him. The Democrats don't get rid of their bad apples because the radical Left runs the party. The GOP doesn't get rid of their bad applies because they have no coherent leadership. I'm not sure which is worse.
Worse than Swalwell is Fedderman. They elected a man that is being destroyed by the process and the result thereof. And you hear not a peep. Further evidence IMO that the Democratic machine gives not a care for any human, American or otherwise.
In both cases the people of those states elected those individuals. We voters have to also accept some responsibility for these clowns we keep electing.
At one time I would have agreed. But no more for the reason of out of jurisdiction donations used to manipulate the electorate. It did not work at the state or national.level in my state but it damn sure did at the local level including a Soros DA. The theme was "Vote Blue No Matter Who". Before O'Rourke was a big driver thereof. His largest contributor was Soros via his PACs, followed by sweet SBF. They claimed the SBF was returned but the announcement was very oddly worded so I am dubious.
Perhaps what is worse is the complete indifference to what is going on -"oh, i dont listen to the news anymore - it is too depressing. I am retired and am just going too enjoy life" as they turn to their margueritas. These are the grandparents who are leaving behind the messes they - created and now seem willing to just avoid the whole thing.
Sometime, indifference IS worse . As a one time liberal Dem who, like Sasha, regrets my choices and is horrified at the results , It shuts down all dialogue and completely absolves those of us who created the mess any resposibility to correct it.
I've never been a Dem, but have ben surrounded by them via the industry I work in. Curious, when was there ever a "dialogue"? This is just an escalation of what it has always been. Dems were always "better people" than us others. As awful as this current dem world is, I am grateful the masquerade is over, their hypocrisy has been exposed, and the ukraine flags have disappered in my neighborhood. It is very challenging to be around people who voted for this.
Except that the DAs in California are all Democrats and won't challenge Newsom, and DAs in other states don't have jurisdiction. So Newsom seems pretty safe. Unfortunately. Same with Hunter and The Big Guy, unless a Republican becomes President.
The DAs in CA and NYC are failing to do the requirements of their jobs.This is why murdering a two year old becomes a plea for understanding for the shooters or a security guard and store clerk were charged for attempted murder. They are to busy prioritizing their image rather than maintaining the purpose of the justice system.
The good news is that Newsom has just announced a tour of all the red states, hoping to show them the error of their ways. Perhaps a young, ambitious DA in Florida - Newsom's primary target - will note some misuse of campaign funds along the way.
I hate to admit it but my daughter-in-law and her family in the Bay Area all like him. You'll hear more around the dining room table than if you just talk to them. I look at them and think you are intelligent people, how can you believe this way. Since I want to see my grandchildren, I won't antagonize them, but when they ask, I present my views.
Unfortunately, your grandchildren may already believe you support the white racist patriarchal paradigm. But you have to love them anyway. There's still hope.
There was a recall with good and winning R candidates, then Elder was put in the race. Suspect that his campaign was partially funded by the Left since he would take away enough votes to allow Newsom to slither in once more.
Why not let Newsom damn his own political career?! Do you really think that there are a significant number of voters longing for tent cities, sanctuary cities, open drug use on sidewalks, farm lands without water, banning diesel trucks, and the list continues! A smart DA in FL would point out the value of their laws and leaders that ensure a quality of life. A DA with unhinged ambitions, a Republican version of Bragg, would make Newsom a martyr.
Obviously, there are a significant number of voters who long for those things, because they keep pulling the “D” lever…or do they? I can’t trust elections any more.
In my lifetime, California went from a red state to a blue state. Liberal white progressives in L.A. and the Bay Area swamp the rest of the state, which actually votes moderate to conservative. In L.A., the Hollywood culture, always left-leaning, dominates. It’s uncouth to be conservative. The Bay Area has always been a two-tiered society, with the elites throwing crumbs to the less fortunate peasants. Newsom is one of theirs. Throughout the state, public education has collapsed from near the top to near the bottom, but every student is exposed to a liberal dose of grievance politics. Sophisticated voter tracking software and ballot harvesting ensure continued progressive dominance of the state’s ruling class.
Newsome's legacy: Massively unfunded pension system, a water infrastructure that is on the verge of collapse during ANY drought, the bullet train to nowhere, and the push to eliminate the internal combustion engine with electric cars, even though the electrical grid barely supports what is needed presently. No plan, no explanations, just a lot of hair gel, a slim Hollywood physique, and whitened teeth accompanied by his calculated bullshit that the press LOVES! Yup! President Gavin Newsome in OUR lifetimes!
Not unless you understand the evil brilliance of my states native son. The Republicans are just not competent enough to play the game that the progressive left has been playing and winning for many years. It is a tragic truth that conservatives or any remaining sane Americans just don't understand. Why would anyone listen to a Republican DA from a club that is eating its own for dinner. When Donald Trumps maga pac runs adds trashing the GOP's only real hope in 2024 and the blabbering nonsense of Kevin McCarthy's visionless plans for America is what the world see's a Republican DA from some rural state in a place coastal elites despise will go absolutely nowhere. It breaks my heart to say that.
I was more than appalled to see that TV ad. What the he!! were they thinking? The answer is they aren't. It's evident that 'they' are short-sighted and tone deaf. The entire mess breaks my heart as well.
At this point tone-deaf is too kind a term. I'm through defending or trying to reason with this bunch because after seeing that add I can only conclude that those who produced it and defend it have descended into insanity. The only other explanation is that the add was actually funded by George Soros.
I also wonder If our Democrat and Media friends (but I repeat myself) have ever heard the old saying "What's good for the goose is sauce for the gander."? Or "10% For The Big Guy."?
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Lets just say her family history is...interesting.
Well, we have the trip to Montana when travel to Montana was prohibited for state employees. And then we have the maskless get-together at French Laundry, and at the NFC title game, both at times when masks were required in public spaces. Then we have the Newsom winery, which was kept open when many similar facilities were closed. And these are just the ones the public knows about. I'm sure the PPP funding for Newsom's winery could also be examined.
California gets what they deserve. They keep voting loony tunes democrats into office and as a result have DAs that refuse to prosecute crimes, such as shoplifting, acts of violence and drug dealing. They deserve streets filled with human feces. They voted for it so they must like it.
CA has the same problem as most blue states -- 80-90% of the land area does not vote blue, but the 10-20% that does completely offsets the will of the rest of the state combined. In Oregon, Multnomah County alone can outvote the entire eastern half of the state. Washington is similar.
States are too big. It will never happen, but I would love to have every state be around the size of Iowa. You'd at least have some meaningful chance of your vote mattering then.
Polecat, it may be true that we loony tunes-formerly-known-as-Californians keep voting Dems into office, but now, as a result of the voting "reforms" of 2020, there is virtually no chance for any other outcome any time soon...guess we just have to resign ourselves to a feces-filled, shoplifted future....
NO! CA worked hard for a recall and had great choices for Republican candidates known and CA savvy who could have won. Then outside sources put up Larry Elder who had no CA experience who was an arrogant and flippant Fox pundit who did not even show up for the debate. The Elder campaign was one more campaign where the Left supported a nonviable candidate so the Democrat cavdidate could win.
Agree, it is the same nuttiness and delusional insanity where republicans actually believed there was going to be a red waive by running men who impregnated the entire state of Georgia (H Walker). How silly was that. There were good candidates in CA and Kevin Faulkner former Mayor of San Diego was one of them that would have been a formidable contender. But the GOP never learns because our primary voters are brain dead and went ahead and ran Brian Dahle in the general. Another lame move.
I have no problem asserting that election fraud is widespread and is now an art form with the progressive left. Some of the outcomes are so bizarre there is little other reason it could have gotten so bad. Although, one should never underestimate the stupidity of the average American voter. Maybe it's more polite to use the term 'low information' voter; but sometimes it looks just stupid.
It will never happen. We live in a state where a democratic LA councilwoman got caught on tape while meeting with other democratic party operatives where she referred to a black child as a little monkey. The child was the son of a fellow council person. LA didn't burn because Nuri Martinex is a Latina valley girl so gets a pass. The meeting included Kevin Deleon and a union thug. This was an official meeting and they spoke Spanish the entire time. This is the insanity of California. Gavin will be fine and if the GOP doesn't get it's act together will be the next POTUS.
As usual you are wrong. No Republican is attacking the Rule of Law, promoting misandry or claiming that 2 + 2 does not = 4. The insanity is coming entirely from the Democrat Party Left and the only way to save America is for The Party of the Left to be destroyed. This means voting for Republicans and Trump. Not voting Republican will in fact result in further proliferation and strengthening of the insanity being imposed by The Left.
You're both half right. It's not just the pols, it's the corrupt, career bureaucrats in the JustUs Department, FBI, CIA, DHS... that have managed embed themselves into EVERY facet of the federal government and formed an incestuous relationship with the Main stream media and ambitious, power mad politicians who use them every election cycle to get re-elected. They need to be fired, and outside of Trump, I don't know who has the balls and stamina to do it.
Lee Morris, to answer your question, Trump (or any candidatei in any race) will not/should not "accept the result" if the election is rigged against them. No one is obligated to play patsy in a corrupt game. And at this point, no sane person can automatically assume the legitimacy of our electoral process. Just the way it is in America, ca. 2023.
I have been following Presidential races/elections since Nixon v Kennedy. In All those elections I have seen nothing that even comes close to what I saw in the 2020 election and on the night of Nov. 3 2020 (examples on request). I'm NOT saying it was stolen. I am saying I have Questions, questions that I've never seen really answered.
It's one thing to say that the election is rigged. With some factual evidence to support it. It's another to say that it feels to the candidate that it was rigged. And Trump if he loses will think it was rigged, and in fact will claim it is rigged before the 2024 election is even held, in order to pave the way for the post election scenario of not accepting the result.
Lee, we have the factual evidence: a campaign of smear and hoax against Trump beginning from the time he walked down the elevator in 2015 (Russiagate, etc etc); the collusion of the deep state and big tech to contrrol the flow of info in the 2020 election (see Matt Taibbi's Twitter Files; the suppression of Huunter's lap top on the eve of the election, dishionestly brought to you by the Deep State and Big Tech; the role of $400 million in Zuckerbucks to boost turnout in Blue areas; the use of COVID to radically alter voting in ways that make fraud far easier and far harder to detect;
There's more, but I think that answers you request for "factual evidence" to support a claim of a rigged election. Yes, I know it was the trend in the immediate aftermath to claim that the 2020 election was "the cleanest in our history," but we have a whole new set of facts. Your view of things needs to evolve accordingly.
"Feelings"--either yours or Trump's, or mine for that matter--have nothing to to with it.
"if he loses will think it was rigged, and in fact will claim it is rigged before the 2024 election is even held,"
Where has he said that? Given we are talking about Donald Trump, it would not surprise me if he did (and don't get me started on what I call The Ever Trumpers!), but I'd like a source.
Maybe republicans are not (directly) attacking rule of law, but they are still corrupt to the core, be it insider trading (Kelly Loeffler and her husband Jeffrey Sprecher), be it being bought by foreign power (Mitch Mcconnel and his wife company).
RNC is corrupt to the core, and danger to rule of law. sooner they are gone the better.
I am not blinded by dislike of DNC to ignore problems in RNC. Sure DNC is more rotten than RNC, but that doesnt make it good.
Unfortunately, Raziel's point is well taken...we cannot underestimate the corruption of the Republican establishment, even as we acknowledge the Dem establishment is even moreso. It's the Uniparty we oppose, and it has two wings.
the uniparty is actually the neo-con. There isn't any difference between bush ii, obama, biden, mccain, mcconnell, reid, pelosi, feinstein etc. they all have identical policies guided if not actually ordered by executive branch departments.
The left is indeed corrupt, but I ain’t voting for an ignorant, polarizing New Yorker just because the left hates him. Trump is not the only hat in the closet.
"The RNC is simply stupid and corrupt", this is also political rot, different kind of rot but still rot. That DNC is worse than RNC, doesnt make RNC good.
You can not stand people who blindly follow a political party and you're going to vote for Trump if he runs?
Trump is doing well, he raised $7 million with this indictment and it will all be paid for by stupid people who have latched on to all of his buzz words, "witch hunt" "victim" "weaponizing,"
If this indictment doesn't work the other two will. Trump is a conman, and has been one ALL of his life.
It is a shame he has ruined this country with his lies, lies, lies and hateful speech which has legitimatized it for his followers and caused hateful murders all over the country.
But I do agree that there is bad players in both parties. So we need to follow the law and using another buzz word, but I like this one "NO one is above the Law."
You obviously have not read my prior comments on the Donald and why I would vote for him. Explain to me how he has ruined America and how "caused hateful murders all over the country.". Give me examples of the murders plural. And why aren't you angry at the Dem/Socs for letting democrat cities burn from BLM and ANTIFA (both Marxists organizations) riots and murders?
He is a terrible liar as are all politicians. We just have to live with politicians lying. It is the nature of the beast.
He did do something I have never seen presidential politicians do and that is try and carry out his campaign promises, build a wall, renegotiate the NAFTA treaty, make Nato nations pay their fair share of the military costs, be harder on China. You will never see Joe be hard on China. After all he is in their pocket.
Is Trump a disgusting human being? Yes! But unlike the Dems/Socs he is not a socialist and that is why I will vote for him. He is the lessor of two evils.
I think this comment represents a serious misreading of the Trump phenomena and its efficacy. The vast majority of R voters are not engaged in cult-of-personality behavior, and are not blindly following Trump anywhere. However, if given limited options voters might be forced to choose the "least worst" candidate. Frankly, I don't understand your acceptance of deliberate obfuscation of the truth (and copious amounts of gaslighting) perpetrated by the current administration and its executive branch agencies. Are the Left's lies somehow more compelling?
You mean, like, Hillary is not above the law, with classified documents on her server, and the FBI agents who lied to the FISA court? Did I miss those prosecutions?
Should I go back further, to the stolen election of 1962, when Jack's father arranged for dead people to vote in Cook County?
True. They’ve coexisted for over 100 years and now, instead of acting as checks and balances for each other, they’ve achieved a kind of power equilibrium and high school-style pettiness and bickering have replaced true debate and challenge.
I don’t know that I’ve ever read a party platform, to be honest, but when was the last time anybody did? Do they represent a true philosophy behind government that merits a specific type of representation or (as I guess) are they just procedural recipes for the status quo?
"I don’t know that I’ve ever read a party platform"
I don’t know if anyone else reads them either. At the end of the day it’s results that matter so anyone who believes we’re heading in the wrong direction should answer the following questions:
Who got the second most votes (74 million) EVER in a presidential election?
Who got MORE democratic votes than any other republican presidential candidate?
Who made the US energy INDEPENDENT?
Who kept us OUT of foreign wars while keeping Putin and Xi in check?
Who gave us an economy that was growing at 6.3%, an inflation rate of 1.4% and $2.39 a gallon gasoline the day he left office?
For all those who have forgotten the way things used to be two short years ago, it was Trump. With all due respect to the republicans who have or will announce their candidacy for the republican nomination, none have accomplished anything approaching what Trump did in 4 short years. None have faced the onslaught from the deep state industrial complex and backstabbing “republican” weenies like McConnell, Ryan, Romney, Cheney… directed at Trump for the last 6 years.
People can debate why Bragg pulled the trigger with what appears to be the most lame attempt yet to disqualify him, but what no one can deny is that his persecutors fear him. They fear him because they can’t control him and he threatens their place at the DC trough, more so than anyone they've ever faced.
"They fear him because they can’t control him and he threatens their place at the DC trough, more so than anyone they've ever faced."
Yes, yes, and yes....Trump's enemies (esp on the Right) like to try to tell you that it's about his "character," that he's "unfit" for office...but it actually is about the aformentioned quote.
The WSJ is of the opinion that the be Dem goal is to ensure that Trump gets the nomination, since he is the only one that Biden has a chance of beating.
If it is in fact true that the Dems want Trump because they think he is the only one they can beat, then prosecuting Trump is the wrong way to go. Bragg's outrageous prpsecutorial vendetta is going to unify the Republicans (and some independents) around Trump like nothing else and, crucially, preempt what otherwise might have been a knockdown, dragout primary that would have left the party terminally divided. They are making a martyr out of Trump, and martyrs can be hard to beat.
If Trump plays his cards right he can crush Biden. Funny thing is, I'm not at all certain Biden will be the Dem nominee. It's occurred to me that the current circus is more of a deflection from the myriad of investigations into Biden Inc. that can't be suppressed any longer.
After witnessing the voters in Pennsylvania elect a brain dead racist, who has spent more time in a mental health institution than on the floor of the US senate chamber as their representative, the WSJ is probably correct in their opinion.
This massively pro-criminal Manhattan DA, who downgraded half of all felony charges to misdemeanors last year as part of what he calls “criminal justice reform,” is indicting a former president by *straining misdemeanor charges into felonies*, stretching the law in novel ways for the sole purpose of finding a reason to indict a political adversary. It's banana republic bullshit. The Left is in jubilation but the country will reap the whirlwind.
I don’t think this is the end of America. Most people I interact with outside of specific bubbles in the country are not hyper aware of the news and aren’t very online. They’re all living their lives and trying to enjoy them at that. I think this will further divide the lunatic categories of people who define themselves by their religious political affiliations. Maybe we could just have a civil war between the far left and the far right so the rest of the basically moderate population can get on with life?
I have wished for a strong third party but I don't think that will happen. The closest thing to clearing out corruption is term limits. With term limits you bring in a new set of thieves every six or eight years.
We also need constitutional amendment that set up a betrayal of public trust law where all elected and high officials in the federal government are monitored for corruption by an independent agency. This agency will also replace the congressional ethics committees in the house and senate, which do little or nothing against members for ethics violations.
If anyone is convicted of corruption they get a mandatory, twenty year, no parole, sentence in a federal prison, not in club fed, where they will be taking long ,warm showers with a muscled up, tattooed guy named knuckles.
Polecat, the third party dream is always an illusion/delusion...the "party" isn't corrupt, it's the people in it, or rather those that run it...a third party might, at best, have a momentary period of promise, and then quickly revert to the norm, probably before it ever held power. Greed and ambition are ever-ready to have their way with things.
But I broadly agree with your point that we must asume the flawed nature of people/politicians and craft a system designed to counter this fact, much the way the framers intended. But where are out Madisons, Hamiltons, and Jays today?
We have a lot of soft men (people) at this point and soft people create hard times. But that is not the quote. The actual quote is "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men" . It is from a post-apocaliptic novel by G. Michael Hopf. And I think it applies to people in general not just men.
No surviving we at the point of no return if the Democrats can continue to do what they are doing to President Trump can you imagine after 2024 what they will be able to do to us.
The president should be paid comparable to corporate. Isn't running a nation much harder than running a company? Why isn't the president paid like a CEO? Then maybe capable people can enter politics and "public service" doesn't have to mean staying poor.
As for Trump's indictment, it is immensely satisfying to see a crude, childish, corrupt, rude man of incredibly low moral character being admonished, but I'm afraid it will only grow his base because Trump is not the problem. If people who voted for him are okay with his behavior and character there's
a much bigger problem with the erosion of our nation's moral fabric. We are one nation we have to stop this hate.
Trump took only $1 a year for being President. Unlike Barack Obama and Joe Biden, he didn't use the office to get rich.
Anyway, could be that Obama will be the next politician indicted - certainly more of a career-maker for an ambitious DA than boring old Joe and his corrupt family.
"Stop the hate" is what you should be telling Joe, who recently told an audience that most white Americans would still be lynching Black Americans if they could get away with it.
That’s the problem Shri. The point shouldn’t be that it is immensely satisfying to see a man you despise punished. In this country people are not punished because others don’t approve of them.
"Then maybe capable people can enter politics and "public service" doesn't have to mean staying poor."
Are you living in the real world? It has always been declared that if we give teachers more money then the outcome for student achievement will improve. But what has happened in reality? Test scores go DOWN, not UP! Giving politicians more money will NEVER result in a "more perfect nation" but will definitely make YOU AND I poorer!
I am a big proponent of teachers making a lot more. I am interested to know more about test scores going down when teachers are paid more. Can you point me to what you're referring to?
As I was earning my BA at mid-life (40), I took a lot of 500- and 600-level (graduate) EDU courses. Most of the students were accredited teachers trying to get a Masters degree and transition to administration. The EDU Department Chair taught these classes, and he had over 30 years of experience as a teacher and state-level administrator. The primary learning outcome from those classes was that data reveal scant positive correlation between more spending and increased test score outcomes in public education. It's not just about spending money: Europeans teachers are the equivalent of our PhDs, as only the best minds are trusted with the intellectual nurturing of children. In the U.S., EDU departments have long been captured by ideologies at war with meritocracy, and with low expectations thus enshrined, it makes little difference how much money you pay teachers and the growing body of administrators. I am not going to cite sources here, but even the slimmest amount of search-engine results will confirm my analysis.
Thanks for that. You are correct if everything else remained the same just increasing teacher pay will not have a drastic effect on student success. I'm not a big believer in using test scores as a measure of success. Our primary and secondary education system needs to set the bar higher. Parents need to be involved and treat education as a priority in raising children not just as a place for child care. Teachers and administrators need the flexibility to inspire more from our students. I'm very involved with my kids' schooling and constantly in touch with teachers. I'm appalled (public schools) at how students treat teachers and how they cannot do much if anything about it. They're asked to teach to swim with their hands tied behind their backs and the bar is set so low to accommodate everyone. I had to move my kids to a charter school so they're individually challenged and learn how to respect and how to earn respect. Success is excelling at both, academics and character.
Geez. You start out the president should be paid like a CEO so "public service" doesn't keep people "poor" and gloss right over the fact that elected leadership grows rich at the public trough. Exhibit "A" being 47+ years of Joe Biden and family, and Exhibit "B" being that poor boy from Hope Arkansas, William Jefferson Clinton. Then you go on to lambast the only man elected President who did not enrich himself thereby and include calling him "corrupt". You are proof that the other commenter saying all Democrats are imbeciles may be right.
I did a cursory search -"how Trump benefitted from Presidency" and that issue popped up. In fact MUCH ado was made of it, and still is among a certain class. It was looked into by a Congressionsl ethics panel and nothing came of it. There is also a White House ethics group and likewise nothing came of it. Say what you will about him he has been heavily scrutinized. While a blind eye is turned to misdeeds of the other side. Which many of us find troublesome. It is like watching an illusionist distracting the audience with the left hand while performing the deed with the right hand. Some are very easily deceived. Others not so much. Personally I am glad Trump has been indicted as now he is in a bona fide court, of record, with rights, privileges, and immunities of a citizen accused and out of the social media self-professed town square where those things are non-existent.
I'm surprised you even reply to my comment, I'm surprised I'm responding. Maybe because I see some glimpse of reason in your responses if i ignore the name calling. You think Trump didn't enrich himself? Lol. Poor can't run for office it costs too much money. You've to be fairly wealthy to run in the first place. I would like to think people run to serve and make things better but somewhere along the way get sucked into the game or that's the only way to be in it, I don't know. If $ was an incentive many more capable people would compete.
I generally avoid name-calling because it does not advance the conversation but your comment was illogical. Which surprised me about you. You do not have to be wealthy to run for president. You have to be 35 and a citizen born in the US. While Trump was an oddity because most people do not start with the presidency as a first run, he inherited some money and spent a lifetime in business. Clinton and Biden enriched themselves during a lifetime of "public service". Obama did in what 14 years of "public service"? That should be a red flag for anyone. As for Trump enriching himself who knows. He probably lost as much business as he gained, given the absolute hatred still evident. As much as he, and his family, were investigated the allegation thereof does not seem to have panned out. Lastly, the office pays $400,000 and the benefits are extraordinary for an 8 year maximum term. If "good" people need more they are not very good, rather they are profit driven. But I do agree that some would incur a pay-cut if they chose to run.
I'm just looking at it from this perspective. A CEO of let's say the top 5 companies by volume which the largest is $2 trillion market cap makes 10s of millions of dollars in base plus stock. The GDP of US is about 24 trillion. Top pay attracts top talent.
I understand your point I just do not agree with it. The US Presidency is not a "job" in the traditional sense. And the one time that has been tried in our lifetime was Trump. He is widely hated. Also IMO military experience is sorely needed as we have not had such a President since the elder Bush. Things have certainly derailed significantly since then.
Maybe poor was a bad word choice but can an honest politician get wealthy? You've to be wealthy to run in the first place. People in congress and senate make a healthy package what about those in the state and city?
You are one incoherent thinker Shri. You make Paul's epistles look like shining examples of joined up thinking. Read down from your first comment; you are all over the place.
I would go even further and suggest that this whole farce is a calculated plan to ensure that Trump is the nominee, because the Biden/Democrat Party knows he is the only candidate they can beat in the general election. Yes, I know that’s a bit of a rabbit hole, but what else makes sense?
I have another theory. The Dems are basically trying to criminalize being Republican (or anyone who goes against them). They are pushing hard to get another riot so they can round up a bunch more citizens and declare them terrorists. The way the Jan 6th defendants have been treated is shameful and they are still rounding up people who were completely peaceful there. I believe this is to prevent any peaceful protests by opposition in blue controlled areas. I know I wouldn't even try to protest in NY or DC because even if the police protected you, the Dems/FBI would send agitators to make it look violent or become violent (see Ray Epps). I know that is probably even more of a rabbit hole, but that is my observation.
I find it odd that none of the Jan. 6th folks have mentioned being FBI agents during their trials. They are staying super undercover. That's commitment.
I was speaking of Ray Epps in particular and oddities like people being ushered into the capitol building. Similar to the Whitmer attempted kidnapping trial where I believe there were 14 people charged and 5 undercover FBI people so an almost 3-1 ratio of suspects to informants - a little strange to me.
Right....I think the FBI often sends agents undercover?
So....really shouldn't be strange to you.
As far as being "ushered" it was probably a poor attempt at some form of deescalation...amazing how some types of people get the deescalation treatment and others don't. That was quite an oddity.
Tucker alluded to the presence on vieo of many seemingly-undercover agents in the crowd but shied away from following up on it...and he has basically been crickets on J6 since then...We got to see about five minutes of the thousands of hours of "released" video of J6... score another victory for the Deep State.
Yeah, certainly odd Tucker and Fox News haven't followed up. They've been taken over by the Deep State, which explains the Dominion voting system stuff.
These FBI agents are committed. Going on triel and still not saying anything!
Comprof, a moment of lucidity and honesty from you...very good...
Don't think Tucker has been "taken over," but he has been muzzled on J6 by the Murdochs, and has made the decision that it's better to play along in order to keep his very considerable platform...I don't necessarily blame him for that.
More and more people such as me, who know DeSantis or some other Republican, would be a superior President, are warming to the idea of Trump - if only to make Democrats lose their minds and have a president with the bloody minded single purpose of cleansing the Aegean Stable that our Capital City has become.
If that's so, then we deserve the democracy that we get and the resulting decline. I would finally like to see a candidate that we can vote FOR, one that best represents the values of this country and -- most importantly -- who will best uphold the Constitution. I'm not sure we've seen one of those since Coolidge left office.
The assault on parental rights completely trivialize the assault on the 2nd A for two reasons, 1) parental rights are not protected by the Constitution because no one ever believed they could be assailed, and 2) purchases of NEW guns are tracked already.
Who is this? Of the current crop running or considering it, who would you vote for? I'm not sure there's anyone with a reasonable chance.
The only way to possibly get a reasonable candidate in, is for Trump not to run. He'll go third party if he doesn't win the nomination. I'd like to see someone younger than the octogenarians currently running our country. Boomers and silent generation haven't done a good job. They are why we are here.
Trump might win the Peace Prize if he opts not to run.
Elections are not horse races, and we don't go to the voting booth to pick a winner.
People need to get it out of their thick skulls that there's no such thing as a wasted vote, especially if they pass over a candidate that better represents their own principles just to thwart the election of the other guy.
The electoral college makes that a ridiculous proposition anyway. In a non-battleground state, like say, my home state of Massachusetts, the dummies there still frantically participated in what was really a Democrat plebiscite, all to show their support of a walking corpse over a slovenly wind-bag.
Thanks to the EC, Massachusetts voters had ZERO effect on the outcome. If only 20 random people selected by lottery showed up to the polls in Massachusetts, Biden still would have taken the state by a landslide.
This is not an argument against the EC, incidentally. After further reading about it's actual purpose — not the one they tell you about in high school history class — I've become a big fan of it.
The idea of subscription journalism (which works) by extension should allow concerned Americans to identify and directly support an elected American political leadership capable of vision and the ability to put solutions on the table.
It will be whoever McConnell okays because he controls the funds. I keep hearing bootlicker references but you know whose boots really get licked? Pelosi's and McConnell's.
You think things can't get worse? I have no clue who's going to pull us out of this death spiral. I was still optimistic that it was possible even after Trump's election, but seeing how forces mobilized against him and are now so deeply entrenched, all I want to do now is head for the hills.
Would you bet your life on that? I’m guessing no, but maybe I’m wrong.
We shall see what happens. If Trump does survive all these attempts to avoid honest debate, and somehow miraculously wins…again…in the general election, the Democrat party as we know it today is toast. But not just for this election cycle…forever.
They keep saying Trump is fat and stupid , wouldn’t it be easier to just beat him in the election the normal way?
Instead it’s just a repeat of “The Karate Kid”!
Johnny: “But I can beat this guy!!
Kreese: “Sweep the leg, Johnny!! Sweep the leg!” 😂
We need a new centrist, and DeSantis may just be it. For now. Personally, I'm for giving Nikki Haley a chance, but we're still so locked into this masculine structure, no one even entertains the idea. Unless a woman plays like a man, she has no chance. Too many things must change. And, we won't see this change until the Boomers are alllllll gone (and I'm one). Elders should be the wisdom, and there is none in government.
Sorry but I'm a "boomer" and the issue isn't gender but quality. It isn't that Haley is a woman that has created her lack of traction. It's that she has been soft on too many issues. I'd much prefer a Kristi Noem. Worse - the core constituency of the Democrat Party is women. Not to say that there aren't some strong, tough, level headed women, many of whom comment here. But the party of lunacy is also the party of women. And that doesn't help.
Yes, most of us here are boomers (and that's a blind spot problem). I respectfully disagree that it is not about gender. It most certainly is, especially illustrated by your response about Nikki Haley being too soft. She was far from soft at the UN and in handling Trump. She was smart, and strong; outlasted everyone and was smart enough to get out ahead of Trump's fall. She has all the characteristics and qualities you suggest. Women in the Democratic Party are playing Hilary's man-game (also illustrative of my point). Nikki Haley, like DeSantis, are bridge conservatives to the things you describe. I think Nikki is stronger than DeSantis (less ego). Maybe they will partner. That's a ticket I could deal with. They're testing the waters with Nikki in the race so early. I would prefer Haley/DeSantis, but as illustrated here, we're just not ready for that yet. Unless, perhaps...
I don’t know if you have watched the 4 women this past year 2022/23. First it was Liz Truss, second was Jacenda Arden NZ, third was Nicola Sturgeon and last was the little pisher from Finland Sanna Marin. All are out of office. Love Nikki Hayley but I’m not sure that the US is ready for a woman right now or 2024. Think we need the men and strong men to take charge we are not in a good state at the moment.
Alas, that is sadly the case at the moment. As I mentioned, the generation holding on so desperately to power in the world is age-old and needs to be deconstructed. Why these women fell is something we should examine closely (hello Free Press). They cannot break the man's game alone, and women do not stand up for each other (more of the game). But, do we really need men to destroy the world they created (without women, whom they systematically relegated to slaves, concubines and possessions) before we rebuild it? We are all still too caught up in the divide and conquer game, and until we break this diabolical spell, we will continue our rapid descent. It's time to stand up to the paradigm in a healthy way. Women and children first.
For me it's less "warming to the idea of Trump" and more "resigned to the probability of that happening".... for as despicable as much of the left is, they are brilliant at strategy.. and always on the same message for all these contentious issues.... they WANT Trump running (he's the one thing they ALL agree on).. the Dems know they will lose to any other Republican candidate......
Ron D showed promise, but that was before we found out who was backing him: Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, etc etc etc. DeSantis is George W Bush 2.0. Yes, you will get the gay porn removed from schools if he is elected, but the endless wars will continue.
Here, again, is where Trump does more harm than good. He's pulling lots of money and backing away from the better candidate. DeSantis is doing what he must to get elected in this egregiously corrupt game. Hopefully, he's smart enough to to play the long game well without his ego getting the better of him. If elected, DeSantis will be who he is. That's why we must always see down to a person's character and integrity. We overlooked that when we elected Trump. Everyone is drinking the Koolaid of their side. Time to break our addiction. People must take their power back. Unless and until, there will be more of the same.
This is ABSOLUTELY the Democrat strategy... they know the charges are bogus..... they know it will energize the MAGA base, which puts Trump in the news cycle even more than he already is which will aggravate the middle of the road crowd, who again will vote anyone but Trump.. how this is not clear to anyone paying attention is beyond me! At this point I am one of those any Republican BUT Trump voters (love the policies and fighting the uniparty, hate how he conducts himself and complete refusal to back down from ANY fight, no matter how trivial)...... but will certainly vote for Trump if he is the nominee....
They did the same in 2015 when the media ceased giving any exposure at all to any candidate but Trump.
The Democratic strategy for years has been to magnify Trump and use him to generate hate for his supporters. They're doubling down.
When Biden took over I asked myself, "how will the Democrats ensure Trump remains the focus of the news cycle even out of office?" Now I have my answer.
I think you are absolutely correct. That’s the political calculus here: make sure that the only candidate you can beat in a general election is the nominee.
I imagine rational Democrats are trying to stop indictments of Trump before the Republican nominating convention, because they want him to be the nominee. But rational Democrats are rare, this indictment and the ones to follow are driven by pure, demented, unreasoning hatred.
"Complicit".....yes.....not the GOP/Conservative Americans choice at all. Media tricked them into loving Trump. Each voter had a media person next to them, whispering in their ear while voting.
Man....odd from the people that love "personal responsibilty"....guess that only applies to certain people/circumstances.
The author, like so many, says Trump falsely claimed the election was stolen. In the same sense that Bernie Madoff stole from his clients, the election was stolen by the suppression and gross distortion of news. How many people know of the interviews with Tony Bobolinski or the false statements by 51 “former intelligence officials” that the information on the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation? There are countless other examples. The election was stolen, but not necessarily from miscounting cast ballots.
Two state supreme courts have ruled the election in their states was unconstitutional . Call it what you want, that is a stolen election in those states.
A special investigator finding that zuckerburg committed bribery right on the face of his actions equals a stolen election.
There was that, certainly, but there were also some questionable things in certain swing districts that made me look askance at our electoral process. Of course, you can't ask questions without some apparatchik screeching 'denier' at you.
read Molly Ball's Time Magazine article - she flaunts all the glorious forces that came together Voltron-style to make sure the shell of whatever counts for Biden these days was elected. By the time election day came, it was over already.
Stolen yes. But not fraud that isactionable under current statutes. Keep in mind that those are state laws. Many states are revisiting election integrity. But the real.problem is that essentially a small grouo ofvery wealthy people and entities are funding elections across the country. I find it very telling that those voters so offended by the 1% ers have no qualms surrendering their votes to them.
Great article. Terrifying road for our country to go down. It’s a sad day in America. The political motivation is obvious. It feeds the anger of the far left totalitarian crowd with TDS is blinding them to the fact they are overtly embracing Stalin like tactics. It’s terrifying how self-proclaimed “defenders of democracy” are giddy about destroying ours today. Still, they are blind and think it’s ok to politically target Trump because “it’s different this time,” even though it’s never actually different and this is a giant step towards banana republic.
The Democrats would also prefer to run against Trump than anyone on the Republicans large bench of younger, competent, conservative leaders who could effectively serve for the full 8 years. Bragg even tested his theory by illegally leaking a week early to ensure it would give Trump a bump in the polls - and it did. Like 20 points. It’s not that Bragg/ Dems didn’t realize the blowback or risk from taking this very pathetic step of overt politicalization of the justice system towards the top political opposition, it’s that they decided ensuring Democrats could run against Trump for another election cycle was worth the costs to the country.
I will give it to Democrats, they play to win. There is no line today’s Democrat party will not cross to maintain power. No, they won’t drop the insane ideologies, awful foreign policies, destructive economic policies, or poverty inducing energy policies. They will push harder to censor more to maintain those taxpayer reallocation plans. That’s how they reallocate money to political cronies. But their is no ethical and moral line, none, today’s Democratic leaders won’t cross to play on emotions, divide the nation, and ensure they retain power at all costs that is off limits in their mind.
Republicans are too often concerned with faux victories - you save no lives, avenge no wrong, and improve no policies unless you actually win elections. While Democrats play to win, Republicans play to feel good or something. Underperforming and losing election after election accomplishes nothing in material reality. I say this because if Republicans played to win, it would be the evident smart response to move on from Trump as a nominee. Not only for the sake of Trump, who is likely to be convicted regardless of evidence in Manhattan if this show trial actually goes to trial, but for the party and the country. While it’s understandable on Trump’s part to be angry - any human in his shoes targeted politically for years would be, that doesn’t change the reality that Trump is toxic to much of the vast middle. It does neither Trump nor the country any good to have 4 more years of the incompetent destructive insanity of Biden or whatever puppet gets put in his place. Losing in a likely to fail attempt to avenge Trump is a waste of time and hope. The Republicans can have Trump as their nominee, or they can have a great shot at the White House, but they probably can’t have both.
Agree. I wish R’s would get over Trump and look to fresh blood. Trump fanatics are being played like a violin by democrats and they are too stupid and stubborn to get it. But both Trump and Biden are old, and the grim reaper could come knocking. The whole game could change in an instant.
Bruce, the prospect of a young Indian American with great ideas and speaking skills interests me more. His plans to slash the federal government--now that is delicious allure, and the liberal heads would explode too.
Can't like this comment enough. 1,000% correct. Anyone who posits 1) restoring individual rights, limiting government to its proper scope, energy independence, intelligent explanation of policy to the public, respectable stately manner; and 2) seeing the liberal heads "explode" as two *mutually exclusive* options is just as much of a reason why we're in this mess as anything the deranged left can cough up. Just so we're clear, it's nothing personal Bruce; it's the mindset that you appear to have. A best-of-all-worlds scenario is within our grasp; all we have to do is vote for it!
Gov Chris Sununu of New Hampshire. And I say this as the token liberal on this thread! The guy is smart and has the skill set to get what most GOP candidates can't - the independent vote.
I like him too but am torn between him and Trump, only because I am not sure Bragg is trying to get Trump as the nominee. I think they are just trying to get rid of him....
They wouldn't have "tested" the theory with the leak, and then moved forward when with the indictment after seeing both significant backlash and Trump jump 20-points in the primary polling, especially when the grand jury was supposed to be on a month-long recess, if the goal was really to get rid of Trump. The Democrats have made Trump the center of their election strategy, combined with false accusations, in 2018, 2020, and 2022. Dems overperformed in ALL of those election cycles. Why would 2024 be any different? Since when have Dems ever repeated the same strategy but hoped for a different result?
I wonder why only the Trump supporters are called stupid and stubborn? Most of my elite Trump hater o are equally as stubborn and stupid because they also refuse to admit what is right in front of their eyes. Maybe if we can get over calling Trump supporters names life can move
Here's my fearless (possible) prediction: In the sense that 'the whole game could change in an instant' I think Biden will decide not to run in '24 the minute he hears Trump is indicted in Georgia, which is a very distinct possibility - thus removing both gallstones at once..
Excellent post. And the notion of finding an untainted jury pool in the lunatic asylum that masquerades as NYC is laughable in the extreme. Democrats outnumber Republicans 10-1 and the 1 are mostly RINOs.
The Democratic Party today is run by people who are still pissed that the Soviets lost the Cold War. Their values are not American values -- they are Soviet values.
The strategy worked beautifully for Democrats in the midterms when their superpac backed the most extreme election-denying Republican candidates, helping them win the nomination -- and lose in the general elections.
Trump sucking the oxygen out of the room and leaving excellent Republican announced or potential candidates like DeSantis, Hayley, Pompeo, et.al., plunging in the polls is making Democratic strategists giddy.
The only thing Republicans can hope for is that Biden becomes the nominee.
In a backhanded way, I hope Bragg succeeds in gagging Trump. That would clear the field. Trump had his day, but his day has passed, and it's an open secret that the Democrats hope Trump wins the nomination, because they see him as the most beatable candidate. Fresh blood could succeed in re-uniting most of the Trump vote, especially against a weak candidate like Biden. Bragg doesn't realize that he might be doing the GOP a favor.
This was my sentiment pre-indictment but I think the indictment will secure martyrdom for him. Which he will love. Saint Donald. But is it possible that it will create a groundswell among those not previously pro-Trump? May be so.
I agree. I’ll never vote for Haley for president because she’s a war monger, but there are other great candidates. Vivek and DeSantis top my personal list. I still have a little bit of hope that time will allow emotions to settle and people to reconsider their unfulfillable hope that Trump will again rise from the ashes or something. I know for like 2-3 weeks after the raid on Trump’s home/ club in west palm I briefly went full on MAGA 2024 before returning to my senses about just how bad of an idea that was before the raid, and remains so afterward. I don’t think the Democrats helped the ploy by illegally “leaking” the indictment in order to watch the polls to ensure it would have the intended effect. It is just too obvious they wanted to go whichever direction was more likely to make Trump the candidate.
1. There is no question there was abundant fraud, illegality, and rigging in 2020. NO QUESTION
2. A lot of what you state as fact is “alleged”
3. Hunter Biden has committed documented felonies. Hunter Biden was being paid off by Ukraine which should have been investigated. VP Joe Biden extorted/blackmailed Ukraine to stop an investigation into Hunter Biden’s corruption WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS
4. President Trump called Georgia to stop the fraudulent counting of illegal votes. He was calling for a legitimate vote count. Entirety appropriate
5. We had EVERY right to protest the fraudulent election. All REAL patriots should have. How many government agents were in the crowd encouraging going into the Capitol?
6. The Democrats are a corrupt criminal organization. They must go the way of the Whigs
Why? It was deja vu for me in 2020 hearing the howls of Republicans seeing, recording, taping, and yelling at election malfeasance in Georgia, Michigan and elsewhere, and yet unable to rustle up enough proof to have a judge agree to open up proceedings on anything. The Dems claimed the same malfeasance in 2000 in Florida, the one state that would have turned the entire election around, with the same screaming antics and arm waving, but with no solid proof of anything. It embarrassed me.
What did the nation do? It moved on (to the mess we're in today..)
Were there election shenanigans in 2020? Maybe. Was there in 2000? Maybe.
They would close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears. They’re too stupid and lazy to spend any mental energy analyzing anything other what’s been fed to them.
Apparently, over 60 judges, including all nine justices of the Supreme Court, almost half of whom were Republicans or appointed by Trump, disagreed with the premise of this comment and ruled accordingly.
Did even one of those judges dig into the evidence or did they dismiss on technicalities? If they had dug into the evidence, they could not have ruled as quickly as they did. So the canard about 60 judges rings hollow.
Ah thé “dismissed on technicalities “ argument. Anybody who can afford the filing fee can file a lawsuit. But the law requires that the complaint contain a bare minimum of factual assertions, usually backed by sworn affidavits, that must meet minimum standards of credibility.
It is not enough to just to claim something. In 59 of 60 cases filed by Trump(his lawyers prevailed in one case that did not change the results in Pennsylvania) his legal team failed to meet these minimum fact based thresholds( some , like Giuliani and Sidney Powell have sanctioned for filing frivolous claims)…. Because they couldn’t.
Audits done before and after the election bore out the validity of these decisions.
See in particular Arizona, where the Cyber ninjas hired by the Republican legislature to audit those results, came back with their report that actually added more votes for Biden.
Respectfully, you’re ignorant of the facts. None of those judges heard evidence but simply swatted away the cases based on lame technicalities. If you had been paying any attention AT ALL you also would’ve been bothered by the shenanigans. Unless you’re a leftist that is.
No question? Any evidence.?? Trump already tried to 'find' just enough votes to overturn, and failed (even though you have to be really naive to think he actually meant 'finding').
He who has eyes let them see. Plenty of evidence, go make an honest search for it. Read “rigged” watch 2000 mules. Read abundant articles documenting illegal or fraudulent ballots. But I believe your mind is not open to this. I would hope that you know the Democrat party(and probably to a lesser degree the Republicans) have engaged in historic fraud, for decades. Tammany hall with Boss Tweed. 1960 JFK stole election. 1948 Johnson stole Senate seat. Fraud is notoriously hard to prove but over time the truth will come out over 2020, but way to late for justice to be done or for our country to be protected from Biden and his cabal
I don't know. There was documented fraud, as there is in almost every election. But it would have to be absolutely massive to have flipped enough votes to change the result. The GOP ran some crappy campaigns. They made the mistake that the Democrats usually make, that of believing their own push polls.
To me, the much bigger story, and the thing that is more likely to have changed the outcome of the election, is traditional and social media both going Izvestia for the Democrats, and censoring opposing voices at the direction of the government. And not a single government official has been prosecuted or even investigated for these civil rights violations. All of the big media in the U.S. today is controlled by the government apparatus, and they willingly submitted to it. Biden didn't need vote fraud to win. Why engage in onesey-twosey vote fraud, when the media is at your beck and call?
I love how there is no mention of Hilary's penalties for her transgressions with campaign finances? Paper thin for Hunter? And J6 being Trump's doing? I guess the author thinks jailing people for years without due process is okay under any circumstance, even when the review of the video indicates otherwise?
It does mention Hilary Clinton’s campaign finance issues. It says she only had to pay a fine for basically the same thing for which Trump is being indicted.
The most frightening aspect of the past few years has been the two-tiered system of justice. Hillary literally purchase the Steele Dossier and calls it “legal fees” and gets off with paying a fine. The Disinformation Industrial Complex pre-bunks the Hunter laptop and the deepstate FBI literally ignores his actual partner Tony Bobulinski’s actual live testimony into the many crimes of Hunter, Potus Joe Biden and family. Alvin Bragg, as DA refuses to prosecute any criminals yet tries ato put in jail not one but two victims who fight back in self defense and DJT is indicted in NYC. We are living in an upside down clown world and it keeps just getting worse.
Douglass Mackey was sentenced to 10 yrs for a twitter prank telling people to text their votes for Hillary. There is an Asian woman on twitter doing the same thing, telling Trump voters to text their votes or vote in person on Wednesday.
We no longer have equal justice under the law, and that is terrifying.
It might also be galvanizing. If people would simply wake up and understand that everything worth living for in America depends on safeguarding our Constitution. Democrats can no longer be treated with kid gloves.
We are living in a banana republic that the democrats have created. Nothing is too far fetched for them not to be amplified as the crime of the century, no the millennium.
J6 was awful!!!! The 2020 blm riots egged on by such luminaries as Kamala Harris were nothing.
The 2020 election was not stolen!!!!! Except it’s obvious that it was and no one in the media or democrat pantheon cares, and why should they, they did it.
Stormy Daniels, the porn whore, is angelic. So she extorted, was paid, got an NDA and broke it and is now spreading her syphilitic germs everywhere again on sweaty one dollar bills but she’s a victim!!!!
It’s a circus that the democrats decry as they pimp for it.
Meanwhile, would the democrats have done anything differently on every front if they weren’t trying to destroy the country?
The Bragg indictment is just the latest outrageous example of the decline of America. DJT might even be found guilty by a progressive jury in uber-progressive NY. But he will be exonerated on appeal because there is obvious reasonable doubt that his motive was to avoid embarrassment and humiliation for his family. He also has a case for election interference because he was a president and has declared his candidacy again. He is not Teflon Don. He is the target of vicious far-left ideologues who feel threatened because he has attacked the foundations of their ideology - big government, wealth redistribution, and the lucrative ecosystem of big government money for meaningless and unnecessary work. Just to be clear, I do not support DJT for president again. He is a distraction because of his unorthodox behavior which is often hard to justify. But I want our justice system to apply the law equally to everyone, and this case is not that. And I would definitely prefer him to Biden.
I don’t recall Trump doing anything revolutionary during his Presidency. He governed like any ordinary Republican. Democrats don’t hate him for anything that he’s done, they hate him because he violates their new rules for speech and because they haven’t been able to cancel him and most of all because hating him is expedient. It’s become sort of a habit to hate him. Both the DNC and RNC hoped they could use Trump but they’ve both lost control.
Trump called to shut down the country and a lot of harm has flowed downstream from that. That’s revolutionary, and not in a good way. However mislead, however misguided, it was Trump why called for an economic shutdown on March 16, 2020.
Republicans I know are shocked that a lot of people who have been red-pilled in the last few years will NEVER vote for Trump. But look at it from the perspective of the parents and grand parents who have shifted right. Shutting down life is often what caused these people to be red pilled. Why would they support the guy who pulled the trigger first, criticized Kemp and DeSantis for reopening, and still brags about the “great” poison clot shots funded by an enormous taxpayer reallocation to big pharma? Trump had great policies for 3 years, but his 4th was marked be weak leadership, choosing Fauci over Atlas, and choosing government coercion over individual freedom and responsibility.
Granted, that has nothing to do with why Democrats hated Trump, which they did from day one long before Covid. Democrats would still be hysterical even if Covid had never happened and the economy was still booming.
I only point out that a full economic shut down is revolutionary because too often Republicans make excuses, or worse forgive, that most grave of errors. “Biden and the Democrats are worse.” True, but Trump opened the door and Trump started the “let’s shutdown” response.
Exactly this. Trump started the lockdowns, the Covid checks that spiked inflation, the uncontrolled PPP loans that were wasted, and rushed the development of the mRNA based vaccines that didn't work. I'm still pissed at the Dems for taking all of that to extremes after Biden got into office, but credit where credit is due.
I agree about Covid. I think Trump's biggest mistake was Fauci. He got played. My dilemma is whether it is worse to be deceived or to be deliberately complicit? I am going with deceived on this one because what reasonable person could have seen the depth of depravity being deployed with Covid. IOW I cannot see rewarding the puppeteers.
Trump likes confident take charge people who get "results". He has stated as much multiple times. So Im not surprised he let Fauci run wild. Decieved or not.
Fauci is a prime example of why I want term limits for bureaucrats. Polosi and McConnell are prime examples of why I want term limits for Congress.
Agree. Well, the Dems want inflation and to crush the middle class. That's been the very focused goal of their policies for decades. I am pissed they do it, but not in the least bit surprised. Dems openly claim they want centralized control and a very few people to tell the masses what is "fair" for the masses to own, do, participate in. It's hard to blame the Democrat party which is openly pro-centralization of everything, pro-redistribution, and pro-Oligarchy party for being pro-centralization of everything, pro-redistribution, and pro-Oligarchy.
My issue with Trump is that he pretends to be for fiscal conservatism, and he seems to acknowledge that overbearing government control has never, in the history of mankind, gone very well, yet when the opportunity arose his first inclination was "trust the government" and, while he'd barb with the faux "expert" class in government, he wouldn't calmy show the data and fire the fear mongers. I will probably never again vote for a Democrat - I don't like a party, or any person, who runs on policies that amount to "we despise children," but there are so many options that are better than Trump on the Republican side and I'm tired of his fan club making excuses for his handling of Covid. He wasn't nearly as bad as Biden and the Dems, but Trump wasn't nearly as good as DeSantis, Kemp, and others either.
I agree. Fauci was his gravest error and thst should not be overlooked. He has a CEO management style which is fine until you pick the wrong middle manager. In short he got played by the odious little gnome.
Well, there was the Abraham Accords. He floated drug cost reduction that are finally coming to fruition. No wars! NATO pays its bills. And all in the face of endless criticism and resistance. That was pretty different.
I am SO not a fan of Trump, but at the agency level I worked at, there weren’t ideologue political appointees... there were the usual R folks who run things during R administrations. And some selections were actually less political than in D Admins. One undersecretary had just stopped working for a D gov. Based on the press, I think we got a biased view of how the government was actually working.
Operation Warp Speed was the best thing he ever did. You can tell because first the opposition tried to turn us against it (“well, *I* wouldn’t take any TrUmP vaccine”) and then as soon as he was out they tried to claim it.
Operation Warp Speed was a deluded answer to the all-time delusion. We only needed the "vaccine" to stop the hysteria created. And, lots of people also got very rich.
I disagree. You can't judge a government policy based only on the opposition's political response. It must be judged on its merits. Had operation warp speed focused all of the funds on treatments and understanding the best protocols for good outcomes, it could have certainly been. But the built-in money to big pharma to "warp speed" a vaccine via a giant taxpayer reallocation the industry that has plead guilty to the most criminal abuses, and giving them liability protection from harm, was poorly conceived from the beginning.
Also, the shots didn't work!!! Look at the numbers. According to the NIH infection fatality rates of Covid average 0.23%. According to the CDC, by March 1st, 2023, 1,117,856 people in the US have died from Covid - or a population fatality rate just from Covid of 0.339% - higher than the infection fatality rate. It's "vaccinated" people dying, getting reinfected at higher rates, and having more severe disease with reinfections than the "unvaccinated," and it has been for well over a year now. That's to say nothing of the rise of "died suddenly."
The "models" claiming the vaccines "saved millions of lives" also claimed completely made-up and absurd infection fatality rates post vaccine for the unvaccinated ranging from 2%-3%. They then claimed that the lower than made up modeled IFR actually observed was from the "vaccine." No strain of Covid has ever come close to the modeled IFR. The initial Alpha and Beta strains, when everyone was "unvaccinated," had an IFR of 0.21%. Delta, that came post vaccine, had an IFR was about .34%. Omicron, which mutated into being in mostly unvaccinated South Africa, is around 0.07%. Trump's continued pride and both operation warp speed and these clot shots only shows he can't admit his own mistakes.
"lucrative ecosystem of big government money for meaningless and unnecessary work" -- YES! Lifetime employment, big salaries, spectacular benefits, guaranteed pensions, sick leave/annual leave/gym time, work from home -- my one regret is that I didn't latch on to one of these jobs, I'd be set for life.
I was actually a government contractor for a while. Even if a civilian job was eliminated, they got the same pay for a lower GS job for two years -- giving them time to latch onto another one. And almost to the person they complained endlessly day in and day out. You're right, I wouldn't never have lasted.
"If the latest polling is correct, then Trump’s approval ratings have ticked up since the announcement of his indictment."
The Democrats have won the battle but set themselves back (perhaps mightily) in the war. In my utopian world instead of fetishizing about the orange man day and night they would be finding ways to make their own party better, put forward better politicians and win based on a platform of just being BETTER. I guess I just have lofty expectations though.
I really, really don't think the long term implications of the Trump indictment are going to be good. This sets a bad precedent for our country.
Bret Weinstein, D, recently tweeted that the democrat party should be treated like the rabid dog it is---put down. Tulsi, Musk, Taibbi, Shellenberger, all have declared they left the party. So I guess Bret is next.
They have no shame. They have gone full bat shit crazy and they like it.
Have paid close attention to Bret and Heather since the start of the whole Coof thing—though we’re political opposites. Cuz, hey, a pair of PhDs in evolutionary biology might know a thing or two compared to my local lefty neighbors who appear to take all their “science” from Facebook and Twitter.
American politics makes me sad; it has become so divisive and ugly that it’s tribal, maybe beyond repair. America faces many domestic and international issues, and we have a dysfunctional government, untrustworthy MSM, broken judicial system, and weakened military. The country is in real trouble.
Although Mr. Lake continues the fiction that the 2020 election was not "stolen," let's talk about in kind contributions. Such as the millions of unvetted campaign contributions such as Zuck Bucks. The billions of dollars of "in kind" contributions from all the legacy media that not only pushed for Biden but lied about and suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop, that would have swayed the result. Or the machinations of the American Stasi - the FBI - still awash with Democrat partisans. You don't have to engage in the cheap and obvious tricks of ballot box stuffing or tossing ballots into the trash to steal an election. All you have to do is allow massive amounts of unsecure mail in ballots, phony stories, a litany of lies by mainstream media and suppression of people telling the truth.
Now, not content with corrupting our election process, Democrats are hell bent on subverting our cherished rule of law. And you counsel "moderation" and comity with such people? What will be left of America when they're done? Will you really want to live in such a place?
The 2020 election was not stolen. The Republicans lost too many of the moderates. Well, to be fair, Trump lost too many of the moderates and the bulk of the Republican party enabled him, and continues to enable him.
You failed to mention that Russiagate, so called, was an INVENTION of the Democrats, and THE FBI KNEW THIS AT THE OUTSET. Two men were acquitted of lying to the FBI because you cannot tell a lie to someone who is working with you.
And it's extraordinary that anyone would blame Trump for events that were clearly engineered by the FBI, Capital Police, and Nancy Pelosi, from firing tear gas into peaceful protesters, throwing old ladies down step, murdering two protesters, and using plain clothes Agents Provocateurs WE HAVE ON FILM pulling down barricades who were never charged.
I wonder daily about the reality testing of anyone buying any of this BS.
And Hunter is guilty as sin. Obviously. Unmistakeably. The Biden family is a crime family. Joe Biden takes bribes, and Hunter is his bag man. These claims were made undeniable by Hunter's laptop.
And then fail to understand his reaction to the false accusation. If you think about it like that all of the criticisms for being bombastic, narcissistic, grandiose, etc. fall flat. He new he had not colluded with Russia, he knew the legacy press was lying about him, he had to suspect at some point the FBI was complicit (and it was) hence the Deep State narrative. But he was right and those wrong-doers have never been held to account. And he is the one indicted. Maybe he should be, I have not seen the indictment. But he is not the only one.
Is it ethical to base a campaign for DA on persecuting a former president? The DA is supposed to uphold the law without bias. In this case, Braggs used bias against one man in order to win the office.
I spelled "persecuting" correctly. There was no compelling reason to prosecute Trump for the charges cited. It's freaking silly and the only reason is to try to interfere with his campaign.
The last thing team blue wants to do is take Trump off the table. This move is most likely designed to further solidify the chances that Trump will be the 2024 Republican nominee. Team Blue has beat him once with a very weak ticket and they probably feel confident they can beat him again. I mean look what his meddling did to the Republicans mid term performance.
All of which ignores the question of whether he's guilty in the eyes of the law. He's certainly guilty of the action. Cohen admitted as much and spent time in jail.
It's all bread and circuses though and the sooner people figure that out, the better.
Agree that Trump may not have been as helpful as he could have been in the 2022 mid-terms, but by the numbers, Trump-backed candidates for the House won 141 seats out of 162 endorsed and 17 out of 25 Senate seats.
The difference between 2020 and 2024 is that very few understood how incompetent and anti-American Biden was in 2020. We know the truth now.
People who mistakenly think Donald Trump is the second coming of Jesus (Which as a Christian I find deeply disturbing given what he says and does on a regular basis) will blindly support anyone he endorses and eviscerate anyone he dislikes. That is a given.
The problem for the Republican party is that while those people are a sizeable (and again disturbing) minority, there are not enough of them, particularly in the swing states.
As for Biden, I'm not a fan, but he is to me, and many people not affiliated with team red or team blue the lesser of two evils.
Here's an exercise you might want to try, assuming you want to understand why many of us worry about Donald Trump and his supporters.
Compare and contrast Donald Trump and Joe Biden in regards to how they support or don't support the following definition of fascism.
"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
You'll have a very difficult time convincing me that Trump is not a wanna be dictatorial leader given his track record. And no, I don't care what the "mainstream" press says about him. All I care about is what he has done and said, and what he continues to do and say.
I reject that definition of fascism, especially as it relates to Trump and his style of governance. Fascism, as defined by its author, is the conscription of private enterprise into serving an authoritarian government, ostensibly for national security. Nationalism has little to do with it, since nationalism is also part of every nation regardless of the type of government. So is bigotry and forcible suppression of opposition. When did Trump forcibly suppress the opposition? In fact, it was his political opposition that released the full force of its operatives within the executive branch and their allies in the press to take him down. All of their hoaxes, tricks, and schemes failed. As it turns out, all it took was a vote of the people to remove him from office.
It is impossible to accuse anyone who believes in individual rights, limited (small) government, reduced government regulations, lower taxes, reducing foreign "entanglements", and the 1st and 2nd Amendment of being a fascist. Of the two administrations, which one is growing government in scale and power, trying to raise taxes, attempting to limit individual rights, promoting war, and opposing the 1st and 2nd Amendment?
Obviously, that's Biden and his Democratic Party.
BTW, I don't think anyone thinks Trump is the second coming of Christ. That's another DNC-Media smear. If any recent POTUS attained that equivalent status, it was Obama, "The One".
Trump’s indictment is just another boost to further polarization of America, more and more republicans see this just another way Democrats are weaponizing justice system to deal with opposition (honestly I cant blame them), and when this very weak indictment fails, many Democrats will claim that it is because Republicans have packed the courts.
No mater what happens now, both sides will be unhappy with outcome. Question is, can we survive as country if we continue on this path, or are we already at point of no return.
I honestly hope that this will all end, not with death of USA, but with death of corrupt DNC and RNC, both parties are rotten to the core (DNC more than RNC), and sooner we get rid of them, the better.
Somewhere in America, a careerist Republican DA is already plotting to take down Gavin Newsom. Given Newsom’s numerous business interests and documented history of playing fast and loose with the law, it shouldn’t be hard.
And that’s the only way bullies ever learn. They get it back twice as hard.
Two wrongs have never made a right. The way for the Democrats to learn is to be voted out of office.
Ordinarily I would agree but there are exceptions to every rule and this is one. Too many Democrats have escaped accountability, any accountability, for so long they are completely, emboldened. Just think Hillary Clinton screeching in Congress "[W]hat does it matter now?" That was in reference to the death of an American ambassador, and 3 good men there to protect him. A foundation of the rule of law is that justice is blind and in the opinion of many Americans, including me, that is not true. This is truly a threat to our Constitutional republic.
My son was active military duty at the time and those words “what does it matter” were why I could vote against her. If she was so careless with an ambassador in a strategic region, her care for troops and a conflict outcome were zilch.
I truly believe they are seen as cannon fodder. It grieves me beyond words to say that.
JoAnne, my heart grieves for all the fine men and women--including your son--who have served so well a country--and more specifically a governing elite-- that cares so little for them.
But I guess it has long been that way. See, Vietnam.
have you seen her "but the emails!" t shirts. this is all a big joke to her.
The entire sentence, was not “what does it matter“. Remark was that the arguments presented by the Republicans were not helpful. What mattered was finding out the exactly what happened and making sure it never happened again.
Her entire remark was that the important thing was the people who died, investigating it properly, and not sham that the Republicans were running.
You didn’t vote for someone because you believed a partial quote.
She care deeply about what happened and not the nonsense going on in the Senate chamber.
RIght on, Lynne. Keep saying it.
The Rule of Law will not be restored by Republicans also breaking the law. The destruction of the Constitution would be complete and irreversible.
I detect hypocrisy: the notion that the rule of law is sacrosanct––an obvious and integral part of our county's foundational principles––is also ignored by those advocating selective prosecution within the "progressive" criminal justice realm. It flies in the face of intellectual honesty that parts of the Left want their political rivals to experience "justice," but not citizens deemed members of protected classes who engage in law breaking. Wanting to have it both ways is the definition of hypocrisy.
It would not but legitimate investigations/prosecutions are absolutely warranted. As is the Rule of Law is absolutely under assault. The chill is palpable.
Agreed. The defense of the integrity of the Constitution is, and always will be, Job1.
No they need to be at the receiving end of their policies.
Best post today, we need to give them with a big stick but it’s proving very difficult when the deck is stacked against you. I fear that with they way they scam the elections they are going to be there forever God Forbid!
Then Rs will be no different than Ds. You are intemperate.
Absurd you think nothing should be done. It’s like taking a squeegee into a war zone. Yeah, that’ll teach the dems to be civil.
Well, I wouldn't want to decimate the regions/areas that produce 70% of the country's GDP.
I used to believe that. But is will not happen.
I would love to see the Arkansas AG or some DA bring charges against the Clinton's over their foundation.
Would love that unfortunately the Clintons and the Obamas control America
They can try, but the Clintons will just laugh. It's painful to acknowledge.
No Arkansas AG who values his life would ever indict the Clintons...they wojuld be subject to the Mark Middleton treatment.
But you see my point.
And, the power of the Clinton's is waning. They are quickly becoming old has beens. But there are PLENTY of right wing folks out there that would cheer on any indictment of either one of them and there is always a DA/AG out to make a name for themselves.
If I were an AG/DA that went after the Clinton's I would say strait out in my press conference that people who cross the Clinton's end up dead. That I expect that I will be a target for mischief. Put it out there. If anything does happen the Clinton's would be looked at hard and then other AG/DA types would be infuriated and terrified to let that go.
Arkancide.
Unfortunately they won't be voted out of office. To many Americans now approve of this kind of treatment for people they disagree with.
“Two wrongs” is the slogan of people who know they benefit from the first wrong.
Its the same as someone who gives you and ultimatum and say they are no "blackmailing" you. You both know they are.
"Two wrongs have never made a right"
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TWO wrongs? Look. IF..... If Trump, Newson, Hillary, Joe, Hunter.... have committed a crime they should be indicted and punished. Period. So far, Trump is the only target of an out-of-control DOJ and Soros-backed prosecutors and legislators.
If this is another witch hunt (duh!) to keep Trump from having another crack at dismantling The Swamp, and if (as suggested by a poster) 'Dems' consider a vindication the result of Rep-packed courts, IN NEW YORK, then there needs to be a voter IQ test.
I'm an independent voter, but there are NOT two sides to what's happening in America today. I'm going to bitch about what I wrote in the early days of Bari's work, and that is that sooooooo many articles go something like this: 'I'm a progressive, even supported Bernie, always voted Democrat.... But even poor little 'ol ME was cancelled.' But what is ALWAYS missed is contrition (at least from moderates), the "I'm sorry" for continuing to vote for a party that allowed itself to be abducted by a radical group of socialists, the likes of George Soros, and woke 20-something misguided ideologues.
The Republican party has its fringe, but are still that - a fringe. But Dems (e.g.) recall socialist on the San Fran School Board and appoint even more socialists. CA wants to recall Newson, but they can't look in the mirror and vote for REAL change in leadership........ [cont]
[cont] I struggle with the Washington Uniparty, but Dems will not be "voted out of office" until the large group of traditional (moderate) Dem voters - the majority of Dem voters - wake-up and stop empowering a cancer intent of destroying this country thanks to their blind votes.
Trump was not going to be my choice for 2026 (have been pulling for DeSantis). But crap like the Trump witch hunt is making it hard to vote otherwise.
My opinion, my rant.
Excellent rant.
Hear, hear.
The "I'm sorry, and "the not doing it again" never seem to come on the scene.
As for Bari Weiss, I give her and her colleagues strong marks for taking the risk, reputationally and financially, to bring The Free Press online in to the highly compromised legacy media.
Terence, it would only be "wrong" to go after Gavin Newsom (or Hunter Biden, or Jim Biden, or Joe Biden) if they have not committed the crimes they will/should be charged with...we shall see...
And by the way: the way CA votes now, with mass mail-in balloting, extended periods to vote, and extended periods to count the vote, no Democrat is ever going to lose a major statewide election any time soon.
Pacificus, in past times we would not have gone after Jim or Hunter or the Clintons or even Newsome or Joe Biden himself. Short of murder or treason it would have set a dangerous precedent and it would have opened up Pandora's Box. It would have combined the judicial system with politics with all the risks that entails.
But, with this indictment of Trump, that time is gone. It is now the wild west.
Let's be clear, Hunter and Jim and probably Joe Biden have committed ethically egregious acts. Converting those into criminal acts would not take much imagination. The same could be said of Newsome. And, since these people have all traveled and done business across the country, there is very likely a way for some state prosecutor or DA to find a way to criminally charge them without getting nearly as creative as Bragg has. Would that happen in CA? Almost impossible. Could it happen in MT, or FL or Texas or hey, even Arkansas? Yep.
Arkansas could do something similar with the Clinton Foundation with Bill and Hillary. If they did any fundraising in Texas or FL that would open up avenues there as well.
Newsome has done business and fundraising in all kinds of places. That opens up avenues as well.
I could also see this being an intraparty issue. You get one democrat running for the White House in a tight primary.....well....take out the competition with an indictment even if you think that the charges might get tossed on appeal.
THIS is why we have traditionally not ever charged former presidents or candidates for the White House. But those days are over. Bragg put them to an end. Just like with the filibuster, this move could very well come back to bite the democrats.
And the welcoming of aliens and push for non-citizen voting.
Good heavens, sir. You are being willfully obtuse.
If the prima facie evidence that you on the left continue to present to entrap Donald Trump is sufficient for him to be dragged into court, the prima facie evidence against Joe, Jim and Hunter Biden is more than enough to get them before a federal judge.
Please have at least a modicum of intellectual honesty and consistency.
That sure worked in 2016, didn't it?
Look, CA Democrat Rep Swalwell slept with a Chinese spy. Anything happen to him? Not until the R’s retook the house and sidelined him. Then he took to twitter and acted all wounded.
It's interesting, because from what I understand, many members of Swalwell's own party consider him an incompetent camera whore. But they wouldn't do anything about him. The Democrats don't get rid of their bad apples because the radical Left runs the party. The GOP doesn't get rid of their bad applies because they have no coherent leadership. I'm not sure which is worse.
Worse than Swalwell is Fedderman. They elected a man that is being destroyed by the process and the result thereof. And you hear not a peep. Further evidence IMO that the Democratic machine gives not a care for any human, American or otherwise.
In both cases the people of those states elected those individuals. We voters have to also accept some responsibility for these clowns we keep electing.
At one time I would have agreed. But no more for the reason of out of jurisdiction donations used to manipulate the electorate. It did not work at the state or national.level in my state but it damn sure did at the local level including a Soros DA. The theme was "Vote Blue No Matter Who". Before O'Rourke was a big driver thereof. His largest contributor was Soros via his PACs, followed by sweet SBF. They claimed the SBF was returned but the announcement was very oddly worded so I am dubious.
Nailed it!
Perhaps what is worse is the complete indifference to what is going on -"oh, i dont listen to the news anymore - it is too depressing. I am retired and am just going too enjoy life" as they turn to their margueritas. These are the grandparents who are leaving behind the messes they - created and now seem willing to just avoid the whole thing.
Sometime, indifference IS worse . As a one time liberal Dem who, like Sasha, regrets my choices and is horrified at the results , It shuts down all dialogue and completely absolves those of us who created the mess any resposibility to correct it.
I've never been a Dem, but have ben surrounded by them via the industry I work in. Curious, when was there ever a "dialogue"? This is just an escalation of what it has always been. Dems were always "better people" than us others. As awful as this current dem world is, I am grateful the masquerade is over, their hypocrisy has been exposed, and the ukraine flags have disappered in my neighborhood. It is very challenging to be around people who voted for this.
But not all of us grandparents. My kids were raised 'right'....and they all still think that way. And I'm working on my granddaughter.
They made the communist Bernie Sanders a committee chairman. and have several avowed socialist in congress. Need I say more?
Bernie Sanders, you mean the socialist- with- three-houses, that Bernie Sanders?
Bernie is a hard core communist and has been since he was a teenager.
Bad apples like Swalwell get rewarded by Dems, so long as they continue to deliver for the blue team.
Great post
Except that the DAs in California are all Democrats and won't challenge Newsom, and DAs in other states don't have jurisdiction. So Newsom seems pretty safe. Unfortunately. Same with Hunter and The Big Guy, unless a Republican becomes President.
The DAs in CA and NYC are failing to do the requirements of their jobs.This is why murdering a two year old becomes a plea for understanding for the shooters or a security guard and store clerk were charged for attempted murder. They are to busy prioritizing their image rather than maintaining the purpose of the justice system.
The good news is that Newsom has just announced a tour of all the red states, hoping to show them the error of their ways. Perhaps a young, ambitious DA in Florida - Newsom's primary target - will note some misuse of campaign funds along the way.
The funny thing is I live in California and I’ve never met a fellow resident who likes Gavin.
I hate to admit it but my daughter-in-law and her family in the Bay Area all like him. You'll hear more around the dining room table than if you just talk to them. I look at them and think you are intelligent people, how can you believe this way. Since I want to see my grandchildren, I won't antagonize them, but when they ask, I present my views.
Unfortunately, your grandchildren may already believe you support the white racist patriarchal paradigm. But you have to love them anyway. There's still hope.
Do live in the Eastern Sierras? Even the straight guys I know here along the coast want to sleep with Gavin. They worship him!
No San Diego
The state employees love him. He gives them 5% raises every year, and 5% bonuses right before every election.
Yet they reflexively "pull the lever" for him and his party at every election! Try to make sense of THAT!
There was a recall with good and winning R candidates, then Elder was put in the race. Suspect that his campaign was partially funded by the Left since he would take away enough votes to allow Newsom to slither in once more.
That doesn't matter. What matters is how they ACTUALLY vote. All your neighbours are just dishonest, lying, shi... shills.
Why not let Newsom damn his own political career?! Do you really think that there are a significant number of voters longing for tent cities, sanctuary cities, open drug use on sidewalks, farm lands without water, banning diesel trucks, and the list continues! A smart DA in FL would point out the value of their laws and leaders that ensure a quality of life. A DA with unhinged ambitions, a Republican version of Bragg, would make Newsom a martyr.
Obviously, there are a significant number of voters who long for those things, because they keep pulling the “D” lever…or do they? I can’t trust elections any more.
In my lifetime, California went from a red state to a blue state. Liberal white progressives in L.A. and the Bay Area swamp the rest of the state, which actually votes moderate to conservative. In L.A., the Hollywood culture, always left-leaning, dominates. It’s uncouth to be conservative. The Bay Area has always been a two-tiered society, with the elites throwing crumbs to the less fortunate peasants. Newsom is one of theirs. Throughout the state, public education has collapsed from near the top to near the bottom, but every student is exposed to a liberal dose of grievance politics. Sophisticated voter tracking software and ballot harvesting ensure continued progressive dominance of the state’s ruling class.
The Democrats are doing everything in their power to stop any Republican President coming thru
Don't worry about Newsome. You can target him when he runs for president, which is his unstated goal.
It would depend on which Republican. Most would not act. And it would take a Republican Congress too.
Let's hope you are right. Newsome is a typical elitist. He as do most politicians, disgust me.
Newsome's legacy: Massively unfunded pension system, a water infrastructure that is on the verge of collapse during ANY drought, the bullet train to nowhere, and the push to eliminate the internal combustion engine with electric cars, even though the electrical grid barely supports what is needed presently. No plan, no explanations, just a lot of hair gel, a slim Hollywood physique, and whitened teeth accompanied by his calculated bullshit that the press LOVES! Yup! President Gavin Newsome in OUR lifetimes!
Don't forget reparations and Covid hypocrisy!
Well said. The Californians deserve and shallow asshole like Gavin but the nation sure doesn't.
I agree. Gavin strikes me as a complete elitist jerk.
Not unless you understand the evil brilliance of my states native son. The Republicans are just not competent enough to play the game that the progressive left has been playing and winning for many years. It is a tragic truth that conservatives or any remaining sane Americans just don't understand. Why would anyone listen to a Republican DA from a club that is eating its own for dinner. When Donald Trumps maga pac runs adds trashing the GOP's only real hope in 2024 and the blabbering nonsense of Kevin McCarthy's visionless plans for America is what the world see's a Republican DA from some rural state in a place coastal elites despise will go absolutely nowhere. It breaks my heart to say that.
I was more than appalled to see that TV ad. What the he!! were they thinking? The answer is they aren't. It's evident that 'they' are short-sighted and tone deaf. The entire mess breaks my heart as well.
At this point tone-deaf is too kind a term. I'm through defending or trying to reason with this bunch because after seeing that add I can only conclude that those who produced it and defend it have descended into insanity. The only other explanation is that the add was actually funded by George Soros.
I am going to agree; there's no other rational explanation. But they are irrational as well.
VIVEK 2024
Who?
I also wonder If our Democrat and Media friends (but I repeat myself) have ever heard the old saying "What's good for the goose is sauce for the gander."? Or "10% For The Big Guy."?
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Mr. Reagan Nancy Pelosi is a Criminal.
Lets just say her family history is...interesting.
I have read that Califotnia has been controlled for a century by 5 families.
and Big Joe too. He seems like really low lying fruit to me.
Rotten fruit.
Prosecute Biden’s daughter. That has to be at the top of the list.
Knowing that the girl he sexually molested is going to be prosecuted for eternity is the perfect punishment for Joe as he dies.
Prosecute Joe for pedophilia.
I can’t wait.
Good.
Jesper
Nonsense. There is not a shred of evidence to support your claim.
Maybe, maybe not.
But one thing I'm sure of...
Neither you nor I know what evidence there is.
Well, we have the trip to Montana when travel to Montana was prohibited for state employees. And then we have the maskless get-together at French Laundry, and at the NFC title game, both at times when masks were required in public spaces. Then we have the Newsom winery, which was kept open when many similar facilities were closed. And these are just the ones the public knows about. I'm sure the PPP funding for Newsom's winery could also be examined.
Yet knowing all that they voted for him.
Leading me inescapably to the conclusion that a split is the only answer
California gets what they deserve. They keep voting loony tunes democrats into office and as a result have DAs that refuse to prosecute crimes, such as shoplifting, acts of violence and drug dealing. They deserve streets filled with human feces. They voted for it so they must like it.
CA has the same problem as most blue states -- 80-90% of the land area does not vote blue, but the 10-20% that does completely offsets the will of the rest of the state combined. In Oregon, Multnomah County alone can outvote the entire eastern half of the state. Washington is similar.
States are too big. It will never happen, but I would love to have every state be around the size of Iowa. You'd at least have some meaningful chance of your vote mattering then.
Polecat, it may be true that we loony tunes-formerly-known-as-Californians keep voting Dems into office, but now, as a result of the voting "reforms" of 2020, there is virtually no chance for any other outcome any time soon...guess we just have to resign ourselves to a feces-filled, shoplifted future....
NO! CA worked hard for a recall and had great choices for Republican candidates known and CA savvy who could have won. Then outside sources put up Larry Elder who had no CA experience who was an arrogant and flippant Fox pundit who did not even show up for the debate. The Elder campaign was one more campaign where the Left supported a nonviable candidate so the Democrat cavdidate could win.
Agree, it is the same nuttiness and delusional insanity where republicans actually believed there was going to be a red waive by running men who impregnated the entire state of Georgia (H Walker). How silly was that. There were good candidates in CA and Kevin Faulkner former Mayor of San Diego was one of them that would have been a formidable contender. But the GOP never learns because our primary voters are brain dead and went ahead and ran Brian Dahle in the general. Another lame move.
That’s ridiculous.
I have no problem asserting that election fraud is widespread and is now an art form with the progressive left. Some of the outcomes are so bizarre there is little other reason it could have gotten so bad. Although, one should never underestimate the stupidity of the average American voter. Maybe it's more polite to use the term 'low information' voter; but sometimes it looks just stupid.
There's also Gavin's wife calling Rose McGowan to ask her what bribe she would take to drop charges.
Newsome is a man who uses his political influence to protect rapist donors. I'm sure we can find a violation of law in there somewhere.
It will never happen. We live in a state where a democratic LA councilwoman got caught on tape while meeting with other democratic party operatives where she referred to a black child as a little monkey. The child was the son of a fellow council person. LA didn't burn because Nuri Martinex is a Latina valley girl so gets a pass. The meeting included Kevin Deleon and a union thug. This was an official meeting and they spoke Spanish the entire time. This is the insanity of California. Gavin will be fine and if the GOP doesn't get it's act together will be the next POTUS.
Exactly they got rid of Boris Johnson in England for much the same things yet the Democrats remain untouchable it beggars belief at times
Raziel
As usual you are wrong. No Republican is attacking the Rule of Law, promoting misandry or claiming that 2 + 2 does not = 4. The insanity is coming entirely from the Democrat Party Left and the only way to save America is for The Party of the Left to be destroyed. This means voting for Republicans and Trump. Not voting Republican will in fact result in further proliferation and strengthening of the insanity being imposed by The Left.
You're both half right. It's not just the pols, it's the corrupt, career bureaucrats in the JustUs Department, FBI, CIA, DHS... that have managed embed themselves into EVERY facet of the federal government and formed an incestuous relationship with the Main stream media and ambitious, power mad politicians who use them every election cycle to get re-elected. They need to be fired, and outside of Trump, I don't know who has the balls and stamina to do it.
Yip Timothy spot on I have no idea other than President Trump who has the courage to do it’s a sad state of our country
"You Don't Have To Be A Republican, But You Can't Be A Democrat."
Dave Rubin
Right on!
As much as it pains me, if Trump is the Rep candidate for president, I will vote for him for exactly the reasons you have just expressed.
My question is, if Trump becomes the GOP nominee - and he loses the election -
does he accept the result?
Knowing Donald Trump, and assuming its 2020 all over again (I have questions about that, that have never been answered), I'd say NO.
I agree.
And you would be right..
Lee Morris, to answer your question, Trump (or any candidatei in any race) will not/should not "accept the result" if the election is rigged against them. No one is obligated to play patsy in a corrupt game. And at this point, no sane person can automatically assume the legitimacy of our electoral process. Just the way it is in America, ca. 2023.
I have been following Presidential races/elections since Nixon v Kennedy. In All those elections I have seen nothing that even comes close to what I saw in the 2020 election and on the night of Nov. 3 2020 (examples on request). I'm NOT saying it was stolen. I am saying I have Questions, questions that I've never seen really answered.
It's one thing to say that the election is rigged. With some factual evidence to support it. It's another to say that it feels to the candidate that it was rigged. And Trump if he loses will think it was rigged, and in fact will claim it is rigged before the 2024 election is even held, in order to pave the way for the post election scenario of not accepting the result.
Lee, we have the factual evidence: a campaign of smear and hoax against Trump beginning from the time he walked down the elevator in 2015 (Russiagate, etc etc); the collusion of the deep state and big tech to contrrol the flow of info in the 2020 election (see Matt Taibbi's Twitter Files; the suppression of Huunter's lap top on the eve of the election, dishionestly brought to you by the Deep State and Big Tech; the role of $400 million in Zuckerbucks to boost turnout in Blue areas; the use of COVID to radically alter voting in ways that make fraud far easier and far harder to detect;
There's more, but I think that answers you request for "factual evidence" to support a claim of a rigged election. Yes, I know it was the trend in the immediate aftermath to claim that the 2020 election was "the cleanest in our history," but we have a whole new set of facts. Your view of things needs to evolve accordingly.
"Feelings"--either yours or Trump's, or mine for that matter--have nothing to to with it.
"if he loses will think it was rigged, and in fact will claim it is rigged before the 2024 election is even held,"
Where has he said that? Given we are talking about Donald Trump, it would not surprise me if he did (and don't get me started on what I call The Ever Trumpers!), but I'd like a source.
I would not bet more than a nickle you are wrong, but We'll see.
Terrance as usual you are wrong.
Maybe republicans are not (directly) attacking rule of law, but they are still corrupt to the core, be it insider trading (Kelly Loeffler and her husband Jeffrey Sprecher), be it being bought by foreign power (Mitch Mcconnel and his wife company).
RNC is corrupt to the core, and danger to rule of law. sooner they are gone the better.
I am not blinded by dislike of DNC to ignore problems in RNC. Sure DNC is more rotten than RNC, but that doesnt make it good.
You’re comparing a vague question about a republican with the rotting fetid maggot infested corpse of the entire dnc
Unfortunately, Raziel's point is well taken...we cannot underestimate the corruption of the Republican establishment, even as we acknowledge the Dem establishment is even moreso. It's the Uniparty we oppose, and it has two wings.
the uniparty is actually the neo-con. There isn't any difference between bush ii, obama, biden, mccain, mcconnell, reid, pelosi, feinstein etc. they all have identical policies guided if not actually ordered by executive branch departments.
Triage, Raziel. Deal with the worst first.
The left is indeed corrupt, but I ain’t voting for an ignorant, polarizing New Yorker just because the left hates him. Trump is not the only hat in the closet.
A false equivalence. The RNC is simply stupid and corrupt.
The Democrats are corrupt and evil.
"The RNC is simply stupid and corrupt", this is also political rot, different kind of rot but still rot. That DNC is worse than RNC, doesnt make RNC good.
Nonsense. Who is the target in the Twitter files?
sure what ever you say
You know it is true.
Sure what ever you say...
You sound like a good little soldier. You would have made a good NAZI in 1938 Germany.
How anyone with glassy eyed adoration, blindly follows a political party and worships their party's politicians is beyond me.
Maybe you can explain it to me.
You can not stand people who blindly follow a political party and you're going to vote for Trump if he runs?
Trump is doing well, he raised $7 million with this indictment and it will all be paid for by stupid people who have latched on to all of his buzz words, "witch hunt" "victim" "weaponizing,"
If this indictment doesn't work the other two will. Trump is a conman, and has been one ALL of his life.
It is a shame he has ruined this country with his lies, lies, lies and hateful speech which has legitimatized it for his followers and caused hateful murders all over the country.
But I do agree that there is bad players in both parties. So we need to follow the law and using another buzz word, but I like this one "NO one is above the Law."
You obviously have not read my prior comments on the Donald and why I would vote for him. Explain to me how he has ruined America and how "caused hateful murders all over the country.". Give me examples of the murders plural. And why aren't you angry at the Dem/Socs for letting democrat cities burn from BLM and ANTIFA (both Marxists organizations) riots and murders?
He is a terrible liar as are all politicians. We just have to live with politicians lying. It is the nature of the beast.
He did do something I have never seen presidential politicians do and that is try and carry out his campaign promises, build a wall, renegotiate the NAFTA treaty, make Nato nations pay their fair share of the military costs, be harder on China. You will never see Joe be hard on China. After all he is in their pocket.
Is Trump a disgusting human being? Yes! But unlike the Dems/Socs he is not a socialist and that is why I will vote for him. He is the lessor of two evils.
I think this comment represents a serious misreading of the Trump phenomena and its efficacy. The vast majority of R voters are not engaged in cult-of-personality behavior, and are not blindly following Trump anywhere. However, if given limited options voters might be forced to choose the "least worst" candidate. Frankly, I don't understand your acceptance of deliberate obfuscation of the truth (and copious amounts of gaslighting) perpetrated by the current administration and its executive branch agencies. Are the Left's lies somehow more compelling?
You mean, like, Hillary is not above the law, with classified documents on her server, and the FBI agents who lied to the FISA court? Did I miss those prosecutions?
Should I go back further, to the stolen election of 1962, when Jack's father arranged for dead people to vote in Cook County?
lol no one is above the law lololololol you can not be serious right now
cite specific examples of murders that were caused by political speech as determined in court of law.
Well said.
The uniparty/war party is evil
True. They’ve coexisted for over 100 years and now, instead of acting as checks and balances for each other, they’ve achieved a kind of power equilibrium and high school-style pettiness and bickering have replaced true debate and challenge.
I don’t know that I’ve ever read a party platform, to be honest, but when was the last time anybody did? Do they represent a true philosophy behind government that merits a specific type of representation or (as I guess) are they just procedural recipes for the status quo?
"I don’t know that I’ve ever read a party platform"
I don’t know if anyone else reads them either. At the end of the day it’s results that matter so anyone who believes we’re heading in the wrong direction should answer the following questions:
Who got the second most votes (74 million) EVER in a presidential election?
Who got MORE democratic votes than any other republican presidential candidate?
Who made the US energy INDEPENDENT?
Who kept us OUT of foreign wars while keeping Putin and Xi in check?
Who gave us an economy that was growing at 6.3%, an inflation rate of 1.4% and $2.39 a gallon gasoline the day he left office?
For all those who have forgotten the way things used to be two short years ago, it was Trump. With all due respect to the republicans who have or will announce their candidacy for the republican nomination, none have accomplished anything approaching what Trump did in 4 short years. None have faced the onslaught from the deep state industrial complex and backstabbing “republican” weenies like McConnell, Ryan, Romney, Cheney… directed at Trump for the last 6 years.
People can debate why Bragg pulled the trigger with what appears to be the most lame attempt yet to disqualify him, but what no one can deny is that his persecutors fear him. They fear him because they can’t control him and he threatens their place at the DC trough, more so than anyone they've ever faced.
"They fear him because they can’t control him and he threatens their place at the DC trough, more so than anyone they've ever faced."
Yes, yes, and yes....Trump's enemies (esp on the Right) like to try to tell you that it's about his "character," that he's "unfit" for office...but it actually is about the aformentioned quote.
Very well said.
The WSJ is of the opinion that the be Dem goal is to ensure that Trump gets the nomination, since he is the only one that Biden has a chance of beating.
If it is in fact true that the Dems want Trump because they think he is the only one they can beat, then prosecuting Trump is the wrong way to go. Bragg's outrageous prpsecutorial vendetta is going to unify the Republicans (and some independents) around Trump like nothing else and, crucially, preempt what otherwise might have been a knockdown, dragout primary that would have left the party terminally divided. They are making a martyr out of Trump, and martyrs can be hard to beat.
If Trump plays his cards right he can crush Biden. Funny thing is, I'm not at all certain Biden will be the Dem nominee. It's occurred to me that the current circus is more of a deflection from the myriad of investigations into Biden Inc. that can't be suppressed any longer.
You may be right, but the Dems may have figured otherwise, or, they may feel that Trump is the only Republican that Biden has a chance of beating.
After witnessing the voters in Pennsylvania elect a brain dead racist, who has spent more time in a mental health institution than on the floor of the US senate chamber as their representative, the WSJ is probably correct in their opinion.
Leaders who have had their political oppenents arrested--
Stalin
Mao
Hitler
Biden
You missed Woodrow Wilson and Abraham Lincoln.
This massively pro-criminal Manhattan DA, who downgraded half of all felony charges to misdemeanors last year as part of what he calls “criminal justice reform,” is indicting a former president by *straining misdemeanor charges into felonies*, stretching the law in novel ways for the sole purpose of finding a reason to indict a political adversary. It's banana republic bullshit. The Left is in jubilation but the country will reap the whirlwind.
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/banana-republic
Spot on!
I hope we survive too. I don't think civil war or succession is the answer.
I sure do ont know the Answer but these neurotic actions under mine deeply held hopes for most of us Americans in our daily personal life.
Safety
Sanity
Hope for a better tomorrow.
Some of the Dems etc want to destroy our basic beliefs.
Obvious for quite sometime.
So true. We ordinary concerned Americans who want life peace prosperity law and order and good jobs for our families are losing hope.
But what are we going to do about it
It's the only answer..they gave us no choice!
Ross perot (anyone remember him?) famously said “there ain’t a dimes worth of difference between the two parties”. It’s only gotten worse.
I don’t think this is the end of America. Most people I interact with outside of specific bubbles in the country are not hyper aware of the news and aren’t very online. They’re all living their lives and trying to enjoy them at that. I think this will further divide the lunatic categories of people who define themselves by their religious political affiliations. Maybe we could just have a civil war between the far left and the far right so the rest of the basically moderate population can get on with life?
No survival is not possible.
I have wished for a strong third party but I don't think that will happen. The closest thing to clearing out corruption is term limits. With term limits you bring in a new set of thieves every six or eight years.
We also need constitutional amendment that set up a betrayal of public trust law where all elected and high officials in the federal government are monitored for corruption by an independent agency. This agency will also replace the congressional ethics committees in the house and senate, which do little or nothing against members for ethics violations.
If anyone is convicted of corruption they get a mandatory, twenty year, no parole, sentence in a federal prison, not in club fed, where they will be taking long ,warm showers with a muscled up, tattooed guy named knuckles.
And sooner or later the agency will be captured by some demagogue, ideologues, or factional interest, ending the American experiment.
Like the end of the Ancient Roman Republic and Germany in the 1930s.
Polecat, the third party dream is always an illusion/delusion...the "party" isn't corrupt, it's the people in it, or rather those that run it...a third party might, at best, have a momentary period of promise, and then quickly revert to the norm, probably before it ever held power. Greed and ambition are ever-ready to have their way with things.
But I broadly agree with your point that we must asume the flawed nature of people/politicians and craft a system designed to counter this fact, much the way the framers intended. But where are out Madisons, Hamiltons, and Jays today?
Soft times create soft men . . .
Lynne, what comes after the "soft men" part?
We have a lot of soft men (people) at this point and soft people create hard times. But that is not the quote. The actual quote is "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men" . It is from a post-apocaliptic novel by G. Michael Hopf. And I think it applies to people in general not just men.
I often ask. Where are the Harry Trumans and the George C. Marshalls?
No surviving we at the point of no return if the Democrats can continue to do what they are doing to President Trump can you imagine after 2024 what they will be able to do to us.
They're doing it.
Yes they are.
We're so f**ked.
Simply put!
The president should be paid comparable to corporate. Isn't running a nation much harder than running a company? Why isn't the president paid like a CEO? Then maybe capable people can enter politics and "public service" doesn't have to mean staying poor.
As for Trump's indictment, it is immensely satisfying to see a crude, childish, corrupt, rude man of incredibly low moral character being admonished, but I'm afraid it will only grow his base because Trump is not the problem. If people who voted for him are okay with his behavior and character there's
a much bigger problem with the erosion of our nation's moral fabric. We are one nation we have to stop this hate.
Stop this hate?
Read your own comment you utter fool. You ARE the hate.
This was very useful to the conversation. From how angry you sound, my comment must've hit home.
Democrats always project.
Trump took only $1 a year for being President. Unlike Barack Obama and Joe Biden, he didn't use the office to get rich.
Anyway, could be that Obama will be the next politician indicted - certainly more of a career-maker for an ambitious DA than boring old Joe and his corrupt family.
"Stop the hate" is what you should be telling Joe, who recently told an audience that most white Americans would still be lynching Black Americans if they could get away with it.
Yes, in an ideal world, we'd have Obama, Biden, and Hillary all locked up in the same cell...a fellow can dream, can't he?
Such a great dream wouldn’t want to wake up 😂😂
Yes, and we would resume tar and feathers for pols while riding a pole out of town, but it won't happen...dang it!
Brandon at times is a despicable man!
Hey, just because Brandon showered with his daughter til she was a teenager and fondles little kids doesn't make him "despicable"...or does it?
That’s the problem Shri. The point shouldn’t be that it is immensely satisfying to see a man you despise punished. In this country people are not punished because others don’t approve of them.
Fair enough, I don't feel good about feeling that way but actions need to have consequences it's not just about disapproval.
They don't need the money. Look at how Biden came into the presidency with multiple expensive homes on never more than a government salary.
"Then maybe capable people can enter politics and "public service" doesn't have to mean staying poor."
Are you living in the real world? It has always been declared that if we give teachers more money then the outcome for student achievement will improve. But what has happened in reality? Test scores go DOWN, not UP! Giving politicians more money will NEVER result in a "more perfect nation" but will definitely make YOU AND I poorer!
I am a big proponent of teachers making a lot more. I am interested to know more about test scores going down when teachers are paid more. Can you point me to what you're referring to?
As I was earning my BA at mid-life (40), I took a lot of 500- and 600-level (graduate) EDU courses. Most of the students were accredited teachers trying to get a Masters degree and transition to administration. The EDU Department Chair taught these classes, and he had over 30 years of experience as a teacher and state-level administrator. The primary learning outcome from those classes was that data reveal scant positive correlation between more spending and increased test score outcomes in public education. It's not just about spending money: Europeans teachers are the equivalent of our PhDs, as only the best minds are trusted with the intellectual nurturing of children. In the U.S., EDU departments have long been captured by ideologies at war with meritocracy, and with low expectations thus enshrined, it makes little difference how much money you pay teachers and the growing body of administrators. I am not going to cite sources here, but even the slimmest amount of search-engine results will confirm my analysis.
Thanks for that. You are correct if everything else remained the same just increasing teacher pay will not have a drastic effect on student success. I'm not a big believer in using test scores as a measure of success. Our primary and secondary education system needs to set the bar higher. Parents need to be involved and treat education as a priority in raising children not just as a place for child care. Teachers and administrators need the flexibility to inspire more from our students. I'm very involved with my kids' schooling and constantly in touch with teachers. I'm appalled (public schools) at how students treat teachers and how they cannot do much if anything about it. They're asked to teach to swim with their hands tied behind their backs and the bar is set so low to accommodate everyone. I had to move my kids to a charter school so they're individually challenged and learn how to respect and how to earn respect. Success is excelling at both, academics and character.
Geez. You start out the president should be paid like a CEO so "public service" doesn't keep people "poor" and gloss right over the fact that elected leadership grows rich at the public trough. Exhibit "A" being 47+ years of Joe Biden and family, and Exhibit "B" being that poor boy from Hope Arkansas, William Jefferson Clinton. Then you go on to lambast the only man elected President who did not enrich himself thereby and include calling him "corrupt". You are proof that the other commenter saying all Democrats are imbeciles may be right.
Trump International Hotel - where everyone Trump invited to the White House stayed..
Really? That's the best you've got? I mean the people did stay there so there was a benefit received.
I wasn't shooting for the moon! I guess I could have searched harder..
:)
Then again charging two grand a night or more for foreign dignitaries, his Secret Service and regular guests - Trump made out handsomely.
I did a cursory search -"how Trump benefitted from Presidency" and that issue popped up. In fact MUCH ado was made of it, and still is among a certain class. It was looked into by a Congressionsl ethics panel and nothing came of it. There is also a White House ethics group and likewise nothing came of it. Say what you will about him he has been heavily scrutinized. While a blind eye is turned to misdeeds of the other side. Which many of us find troublesome. It is like watching an illusionist distracting the audience with the left hand while performing the deed with the right hand. Some are very easily deceived. Others not so much. Personally I am glad Trump has been indicted as now he is in a bona fide court, of record, with rights, privileges, and immunities of a citizen accused and out of the social media self-professed town square where those things are non-existent.
I'm surprised you even reply to my comment, I'm surprised I'm responding. Maybe because I see some glimpse of reason in your responses if i ignore the name calling. You think Trump didn't enrich himself? Lol. Poor can't run for office it costs too much money. You've to be fairly wealthy to run in the first place. I would like to think people run to serve and make things better but somewhere along the way get sucked into the game or that's the only way to be in it, I don't know. If $ was an incentive many more capable people would compete.
I generally avoid name-calling because it does not advance the conversation but your comment was illogical. Which surprised me about you. You do not have to be wealthy to run for president. You have to be 35 and a citizen born in the US. While Trump was an oddity because most people do not start with the presidency as a first run, he inherited some money and spent a lifetime in business. Clinton and Biden enriched themselves during a lifetime of "public service". Obama did in what 14 years of "public service"? That should be a red flag for anyone. As for Trump enriching himself who knows. He probably lost as much business as he gained, given the absolute hatred still evident. As much as he, and his family, were investigated the allegation thereof does not seem to have panned out. Lastly, the office pays $400,000 and the benefits are extraordinary for an 8 year maximum term. If "good" people need more they are not very good, rather they are profit driven. But I do agree that some would incur a pay-cut if they chose to run.
I'm just looking at it from this perspective. A CEO of let's say the top 5 companies by volume which the largest is $2 trillion market cap makes 10s of millions of dollars in base plus stock. The GDP of US is about 24 trillion. Top pay attracts top talent.
I understand your point I just do not agree with it. The US Presidency is not a "job" in the traditional sense. And the one time that has been tried in our lifetime was Trump. He is widely hated. Also IMO military experience is sorely needed as we have not had such a President since the elder Bush. Things have certainly derailed significantly since then.
Please give an example of a politician who is poor.
Maybe poor was a bad word choice but can an honest politician get wealthy? You've to be wealthy to run in the first place. People in congress and senate make a healthy package what about those in the state and city?
You are one incoherent thinker Shri. You make Paul's epistles look like shining examples of joined up thinking. Read down from your first comment; you are all over the place.
Sorry you feel that way.
I would go even further and suggest that this whole farce is a calculated plan to ensure that Trump is the nominee, because the Biden/Democrat Party knows he is the only candidate they can beat in the general election. Yes, I know that’s a bit of a rabbit hole, but what else makes sense?
I have another theory. The Dems are basically trying to criminalize being Republican (or anyone who goes against them). They are pushing hard to get another riot so they can round up a bunch more citizens and declare them terrorists. The way the Jan 6th defendants have been treated is shameful and they are still rounding up people who were completely peaceful there. I believe this is to prevent any peaceful protests by opposition in blue controlled areas. I know I wouldn't even try to protest in NY or DC because even if the police protected you, the Dems/FBI would send agitators to make it look violent or become violent (see Ray Epps). I know that is probably even more of a rabbit hole, but that is my observation.
Yes, Dems are looking for another riot.
They even have the Mayor of NY out in front of this threatening people.
I find it odd that none of the Jan. 6th folks have mentioned being FBI agents during their trials. They are staying super undercover. That's commitment.
I was speaking of Ray Epps in particular and oddities like people being ushered into the capitol building. Similar to the Whitmer attempted kidnapping trial where I believe there were 14 people charged and 5 undercover FBI people so an almost 3-1 ratio of suspects to informants - a little strange to me.
Right....I think the FBI often sends agents undercover?
So....really shouldn't be strange to you.
As far as being "ushered" it was probably a poor attempt at some form of deescalation...amazing how some types of people get the deescalation treatment and others don't. That was quite an oddity.
Yeah we are outmanned 100-1 that’s why we have devoted 7 officers to deescalating the one guy who clearly isn’t a risk.
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100-1? Man, there were a lot of FBI agents there that day.
There was only "the one guy" who clearly isn't a risk? Wow! KevinDurant, you might have had a Freudian slip there.
Who are these 7 officers....who is this "one guy?" Is this more of your "comedic stylings" or just your normal BS?
Can't believe none of them have brought that up their FBI employment during their sentencing.
Haven't you run out straw yet?
Lol. Jan 6th was done/organized by the FBI, dude. That's the argument. So, don't try and claim it's different now.
You would think one of the defendants would have come clean about that by now.
code of silence. works for the mafia
Despite the Carlson/FOX J/6 tape release I've seen no objective comprehensive report on the event.
Tucker alluded to the presence on vieo of many seemingly-undercover agents in the crowd but shied away from following up on it...and he has basically been crickets on J6 since then...We got to see about five minutes of the thousands of hours of "released" video of J6... score another victory for the Deep State.
Yeah, certainly odd Tucker and Fox News haven't followed up. They've been taken over by the Deep State, which explains the Dominion voting system stuff.
These FBI agents are committed. Going on triel and still not saying anything!
Comprof, a moment of lucidity and honesty from you...very good...
Don't think Tucker has been "taken over," but he has been muzzled on J6 by the Murdochs, and has made the decision that it's better to play along in order to keep his very considerable platform...I don't necessarily blame him for that.
Yeah...doesn't really need ro be "comprehensive," does it?
I think at least one of the defendants would have at least mentioned that they were FBI agents during trial. Maybe they're super undercover?
Not such a rabbit hole!
More and more people such as me, who know DeSantis or some other Republican, would be a superior President, are warming to the idea of Trump - if only to make Democrats lose their minds and have a president with the bloody minded single purpose of cleansing the Aegean Stable that our Capital City has become.
If that's so, then we deserve the democracy that we get and the resulting decline. I would finally like to see a candidate that we can vote FOR, one that best represents the values of this country and -- most importantly -- who will best uphold the Constitution. I'm not sure we've seen one of those since Coolidge left office.
We’re already in the America we deserve and it’s not good.
Well, what if 55% of the country voted to end the First Amendment?
Would that be the end of the debate?
Or just the beginning of the fight?
The beginning of the fight Bruce.
They're going after the 2nd, which means that if successful, the first means nothing any longer. In fact, the whole Bill of Rights falls apart.
The assault on parental rights completely trivialize the assault on the 2nd A for two reasons, 1) parental rights are not protected by the Constitution because no one ever believed they could be assailed, and 2) purchases of NEW guns are tracked already.
Who is this? Of the current crop running or considering it, who would you vote for? I'm not sure there's anyone with a reasonable chance.
The only way to possibly get a reasonable candidate in, is for Trump not to run. He'll go third party if he doesn't win the nomination. I'd like to see someone younger than the octogenarians currently running our country. Boomers and silent generation haven't done a good job. They are why we are here.
Trump might win the Peace Prize if he opts not to run.
Elections are not horse races, and we don't go to the voting booth to pick a winner.
People need to get it out of their thick skulls that there's no such thing as a wasted vote, especially if they pass over a candidate that better represents their own principles just to thwart the election of the other guy.
The electoral college makes that a ridiculous proposition anyway. In a non-battleground state, like say, my home state of Massachusetts, the dummies there still frantically participated in what was really a Democrat plebiscite, all to show their support of a walking corpse over a slovenly wind-bag.
Thanks to the EC, Massachusetts voters had ZERO effect on the outcome. If only 20 random people selected by lottery showed up to the polls in Massachusetts, Biden still would have taken the state by a landslide.
This is not an argument against the EC, incidentally. After further reading about it's actual purpose — not the one they tell you about in high school history class — I've become a big fan of it.
The idea of subscription journalism (which works) by extension should allow concerned Americans to identify and directly support an elected American political leadership capable of vision and the ability to put solutions on the table.
It will be whoever McConnell okays because he controls the funds. I keep hearing bootlicker references but you know whose boots really get licked? Pelosi's and McConnell's.
" I keep hearing bootloader references but you know whose boots really get locked?" Is that some very local American argot?
Thanks for the catch. Bootlicker. You understand that reference right?
There's another way besides Trump deciding not to run. If some demented member of the MSNBC audience doesn't do it, I suspect the FBI might.
Haven’t we got that at the moment, what do you think we will look like at the end of Biden’s second term?
You think things can't get worse? I have no clue who's going to pull us out of this death spiral. I was still optimistic that it was possible even after Trump's election, but seeing how forces mobilized against him and are now so deeply entrenched, all I want to do now is head for the hills.
Me too!
Why the push to dismantle the Constitution at all?
It doesn’t serve their authoritarian interests. (Thereby proving how critical it is to maintain...)
If every republican fell in line behind trump he would still lose the general. The Dems know this.
Speculation is not fact.
The same was true in 2016.
The dems will change every law they have to and cheat everywhere they can't to win.
Not every Republican fell in line in 2020 and he still won the election. He’s going to crush Biden in 2024.
The Dems were supposed to get crushed in the mid-terms. Didn't happen.
Important to keep that in mind.
I like your post❤️❤️
Would you bet your life on that? I’m guessing no, but maybe I’m wrong.
We shall see what happens. If Trump does survive all these attempts to avoid honest debate, and somehow miraculously wins…again…in the general election, the Democrat party as we know it today is toast. But not just for this election cycle…forever.
They keep saying Trump is fat and stupid , wouldn’t it be easier to just beat him in the election the normal way?
Instead it’s just a repeat of “The Karate Kid”!
Johnny: “But I can beat this guy!!
Kreese: “Sweep the leg, Johnny!! Sweep the leg!” 😂
Please God from your post to God’s ears I just hope it doesn’t remain as it is in 2024 because then America is toast
Not if sane independents see the light.
We need a new centrist, and DeSantis may just be it. For now. Personally, I'm for giving Nikki Haley a chance, but we're still so locked into this masculine structure, no one even entertains the idea. Unless a woman plays like a man, she has no chance. Too many things must change. And, we won't see this change until the Boomers are alllllll gone (and I'm one). Elders should be the wisdom, and there is none in government.
Sorry but I'm a "boomer" and the issue isn't gender but quality. It isn't that Haley is a woman that has created her lack of traction. It's that she has been soft on too many issues. I'd much prefer a Kristi Noem. Worse - the core constituency of the Democrat Party is women. Not to say that there aren't some strong, tough, level headed women, many of whom comment here. But the party of lunacy is also the party of women. And that doesn't help.
South Dakotan here. While I'd be sad to lose our governor, I'd vote for her for POTUS in a heartbeat.
Yes, most of us here are boomers (and that's a blind spot problem). I respectfully disagree that it is not about gender. It most certainly is, especially illustrated by your response about Nikki Haley being too soft. She was far from soft at the UN and in handling Trump. She was smart, and strong; outlasted everyone and was smart enough to get out ahead of Trump's fall. She has all the characteristics and qualities you suggest. Women in the Democratic Party are playing Hilary's man-game (also illustrative of my point). Nikki Haley, like DeSantis, are bridge conservatives to the things you describe. I think Nikki is stronger than DeSantis (less ego). Maybe they will partner. That's a ticket I could deal with. They're testing the waters with Nikki in the race so early. I would prefer Haley/DeSantis, but as illustrated here, we're just not ready for that yet. Unless, perhaps...
I don’t know if you have watched the 4 women this past year 2022/23. First it was Liz Truss, second was Jacenda Arden NZ, third was Nicola Sturgeon and last was the little pisher from Finland Sanna Marin. All are out of office. Love Nikki Hayley but I’m not sure that the US is ready for a woman right now or 2024. Think we need the men and strong men to take charge we are not in a good state at the moment.
Alas, that is sadly the case at the moment. As I mentioned, the generation holding on so desperately to power in the world is age-old and needs to be deconstructed. Why these women fell is something we should examine closely (hello Free Press). They cannot break the man's game alone, and women do not stand up for each other (more of the game). But, do we really need men to destroy the world they created (without women, whom they systematically relegated to slaves, concubines and possessions) before we rebuild it? We are all still too caught up in the divide and conquer game, and until we break this diabolical spell, we will continue our rapid descent. It's time to stand up to the paradigm in a healthy way. Women and children first.
Painful, but making more sense every day.
Tells you just how fucked up this is.
Augean Stables; Aegean Sea. ;-)
Hey thanks.
I guess I've been making that mistake for decades.
For me it's less "warming to the idea of Trump" and more "resigned to the probability of that happening".... for as despicable as much of the left is, they are brilliant at strategy.. and always on the same message for all these contentious issues.... they WANT Trump running (he's the one thing they ALL agree on).. the Dems know they will lose to any other Republican candidate......
Ron D showed promise, but that was before we found out who was backing him: Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, etc etc etc. DeSantis is George W Bush 2.0. Yes, you will get the gay porn removed from schools if he is elected, but the endless wars will continue.
Here, again, is where Trump does more harm than good. He's pulling lots of money and backing away from the better candidate. DeSantis is doing what he must to get elected in this egregiously corrupt game. Hopefully, he's smart enough to to play the long game well without his ego getting the better of him. If elected, DeSantis will be who he is. That's why we must always see down to a person's character and integrity. We overlooked that when we elected Trump. Everyone is drinking the Koolaid of their side. Time to break our addiction. People must take their power back. Unless and until, there will be more of the same.
Rosemarie, we know who DeSantis is: George W. Bush 2.0. And we don't want it.
Are you using the royal "we"?
Rosemarie, I'm using the populist "we."
Absolutely have been thinking this^^
I, too, think you are right on the money.
100% this
You are right.
This is ABSOLUTELY the Democrat strategy... they know the charges are bogus..... they know it will energize the MAGA base, which puts Trump in the news cycle even more than he already is which will aggravate the middle of the road crowd, who again will vote anyone but Trump.. how this is not clear to anyone paying attention is beyond me! At this point I am one of those any Republican BUT Trump voters (love the policies and fighting the uniparty, hate how he conducts himself and complete refusal to back down from ANY fight, no matter how trivial)...... but will certainly vote for Trump if he is the nominee....
I know. MAGA voters are so dumb, they are easily manipulated and tricked.
Actually, they were forced to vote for Trump the first time by the media, etc. No personal responsibility.
This is their corrupt strategy!!
It's working on me!!
Spoken like a true dumbocrat . I have a name for your type Honker lots of noise little to say
Stay classy, Hulverhead ;)
They did the same in 2015 when the media ceased giving any exposure at all to any candidate but Trump.
The Democratic strategy for years has been to magnify Trump and use him to generate hate for his supporters. They're doubling down.
When Biden took over I asked myself, "how will the Democrats ensure Trump remains the focus of the news cycle even out of office?" Now I have my answer.
Uh...at what point are people responsible for their own vote?
Is the prevailing theory now that Conservative voters were "phydically forced" to vote for Trump or something?
Odd, for the "personal responsibilty" crowd.
Trump might win.
I think you are absolutely correct. That’s the political calculus here: make sure that the only candidate you can beat in a general election is the nominee.
I know. They're going to be forced to vote for Trump because they have no agency and no control over their actions.
I imagine rational Democrats are trying to stop indictments of Trump before the Republican nominating convention, because they want him to be the nominee. But rational Democrats are rare, this indictment and the ones to follow are driven by pure, demented, unreasoning hatred.
The media is on board too. Trump is the gift that keeps giving.
The media forced people to vote for Trump.
Forced? That's a bit of hyperbolic, IMO. But I agree that they are complicit in getting him elected. They love it, too. He makes great copy.
"Complicit".....yes.....not the GOP/Conservative Americans choice at all. Media tricked them into loving Trump. Each voter had a media person next to them, whispering in their ear while voting.
Man....odd from the people that love "personal responsibilty"....guess that only applies to certain people/circumstances.
Might not be farce(seen the indictment, yet?) But even if it is, I like the plan.
Nothing makes sense these days. Reality is too hard for a lot of people unfortunately.
There's no guaranteed that Biden can win, particularly if he continues the basement strategy.
People want to see their president on the campaign trail.
Is there a campaign currently going on?
I heard Democrats actually physicaly forced people to vote for Trump.
Gotta be careful around those pedophiles! Just ask MTG.
I know. All the sudden the media, Democrats, etc. are "making" them vote for Trump.
After Trump destroys Haley, Hutchinson, etc. in the primary, that'll be the media's fault, too.
Well....so much for "personal responsibility.
You run in different circles than Republicans so you would know. I would find it hard to believe but admissions are admissions.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/gop-donor-convicted-minnesota-sex-trafficking-trial-98280162
That is not on point as it has nothing to do with forced votes. So now I am back to you must be AI. Faulty AI. Your programming needs to be checked.
The Democrats are trying to make Trump the nominee!!!
I am powerless to not vote for him in the primary!!!!
The author, like so many, says Trump falsely claimed the election was stolen. In the same sense that Bernie Madoff stole from his clients, the election was stolen by the suppression and gross distortion of news. How many people know of the interviews with Tony Bobolinski or the false statements by 51 “former intelligence officials” that the information on the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation? There are countless other examples. The election was stolen, but not necessarily from miscounting cast ballots.
Censorship of the Biden laptop story was my red pill moment.
1.2 million ineligible voters just removed from the rolls in LA county alone.
Paying Reader, so so good to be on this fact...and every one of those 1.2 mill inelegible voters had a ballot mailed to them in 2022. Rigged.
The willful ignorance is astounding.
Ok. But everyone knows that's not what everyone thinks when they say that the election was stolen though.
How do you know what people think?
As if you're the only one with the wit to parse out the difference?
😂😂😂
Yes it is.
Two state supreme courts have ruled the election in their states was unconstitutional . Call it what you want, that is a stolen election in those states.
A special investigator finding that zuckerburg committed bribery right on the face of his actions equals a stolen election.
Ans your point is.....?
There was that, certainly, but there were also some questionable things in certain swing districts that made me look askance at our electoral process. Of course, you can't ask questions without some apparatchik screeching 'denier' at you.
Good point, Lancer. I usually prefer "rigged" to "stolen," but could be both terms are apt.
read Molly Ball's Time Magazine article - she flaunts all the glorious forces that came together Voltron-style to make sure the shell of whatever counts for Biden these days was elected. By the time election day came, it was over already.
Stolen yes. But not fraud that isactionable under current statutes. Keep in mind that those are state laws. Many states are revisiting election integrity. But the real.problem is that essentially a small grouo ofvery wealthy people and entities are funding elections across the country. I find it very telling that those voters so offended by the 1% ers have no qualms surrendering their votes to them.
Yesss!
Great article. Terrifying road for our country to go down. It’s a sad day in America. The political motivation is obvious. It feeds the anger of the far left totalitarian crowd with TDS is blinding them to the fact they are overtly embracing Stalin like tactics. It’s terrifying how self-proclaimed “defenders of democracy” are giddy about destroying ours today. Still, they are blind and think it’s ok to politically target Trump because “it’s different this time,” even though it’s never actually different and this is a giant step towards banana republic.
The Democrats would also prefer to run against Trump than anyone on the Republicans large bench of younger, competent, conservative leaders who could effectively serve for the full 8 years. Bragg even tested his theory by illegally leaking a week early to ensure it would give Trump a bump in the polls - and it did. Like 20 points. It’s not that Bragg/ Dems didn’t realize the blowback or risk from taking this very pathetic step of overt politicalization of the justice system towards the top political opposition, it’s that they decided ensuring Democrats could run against Trump for another election cycle was worth the costs to the country.
I will give it to Democrats, they play to win. There is no line today’s Democrat party will not cross to maintain power. No, they won’t drop the insane ideologies, awful foreign policies, destructive economic policies, or poverty inducing energy policies. They will push harder to censor more to maintain those taxpayer reallocation plans. That’s how they reallocate money to political cronies. But their is no ethical and moral line, none, today’s Democratic leaders won’t cross to play on emotions, divide the nation, and ensure they retain power at all costs that is off limits in their mind.
Republicans are too often concerned with faux victories - you save no lives, avenge no wrong, and improve no policies unless you actually win elections. While Democrats play to win, Republicans play to feel good or something. Underperforming and losing election after election accomplishes nothing in material reality. I say this because if Republicans played to win, it would be the evident smart response to move on from Trump as a nominee. Not only for the sake of Trump, who is likely to be convicted regardless of evidence in Manhattan if this show trial actually goes to trial, but for the party and the country. While it’s understandable on Trump’s part to be angry - any human in his shoes targeted politically for years would be, that doesn’t change the reality that Trump is toxic to much of the vast middle. It does neither Trump nor the country any good to have 4 more years of the incompetent destructive insanity of Biden or whatever puppet gets put in his place. Losing in a likely to fail attempt to avenge Trump is a waste of time and hope. The Republicans can have Trump as their nominee, or they can have a great shot at the White House, but they probably can’t have both.
Agree. I wish R’s would get over Trump and look to fresh blood. Trump fanatics are being played like a violin by democrats and they are too stupid and stubborn to get it. But both Trump and Biden are old, and the grim reaper could come knocking. The whole game could change in an instant.
True but......the prospect of a second Trump presidency has a certain delicious allure simply because of the liberals heads exploding all en masse.
I know, I know.....
But still.
Bruce, the prospect of a young Indian American with great ideas and speaking skills interests me more. His plans to slash the federal government--now that is delicious allure, and the liberal heads would explode too.
Can't like this comment enough. 1,000% correct. Anyone who posits 1) restoring individual rights, limiting government to its proper scope, energy independence, intelligent explanation of policy to the public, respectable stately manner; and 2) seeing the liberal heads "explode" as two *mutually exclusive* options is just as much of a reason why we're in this mess as anything the deranged left can cough up. Just so we're clear, it's nothing personal Bruce; it's the mindset that you appear to have. A best-of-all-worlds scenario is within our grasp; all we have to do is vote for it!
He's my pick. Wish more people would look at him. He would have a chance. But, Trump will run 3rd party if he doesn't get the nomination.
And you get Biden again.
Look north.
Gov Chris Sununu of New Hampshire. And I say this as the token liberal on this thread! The guy is smart and has the skill set to get what most GOP candidates can't - the independent vote.
I’ll consider anyone who isn’t a war monger and isn’t promoting insane critical theories and ideologies.
I like him too but am torn between him and Trump, only because I am not sure Bragg is trying to get Trump as the nominee. I think they are just trying to get rid of him....
They wouldn't have "tested" the theory with the leak, and then moved forward when with the indictment after seeing both significant backlash and Trump jump 20-points in the primary polling, especially when the grand jury was supposed to be on a month-long recess, if the goal was really to get rid of Trump. The Democrats have made Trump the center of their election strategy, combined with false accusations, in 2018, 2020, and 2022. Dems overperformed in ALL of those election cycles. Why would 2024 be any different? Since when have Dems ever repeated the same strategy but hoped for a different result?
I really like Vivek! He’ll be my choice if he is still in the running.
Is that Vivek Ramaswamy?
Yes
Ah, we could only be so lucky to have one or both of them drop dead.
I wonder why only the Trump supporters are called stupid and stubborn? Most of my elite Trump hater o are equally as stubborn and stupid because they also refuse to admit what is right in front of their eyes. Maybe if we can get over calling Trump supporters names life can move
Here's my fearless (possible) prediction: In the sense that 'the whole game could change in an instant' I think Biden will decide not to run in '24 the minute he hears Trump is indicted in Georgia, which is a very distinct possibility - thus removing both gallstones at once..
Excellent post. And the notion of finding an untainted jury pool in the lunatic asylum that masquerades as NYC is laughable in the extreme. Democrats outnumber Republicans 10-1 and the 1 are mostly RINOs.
The Democratic Party today is run by people who are still pissed that the Soviets lost the Cold War. Their values are not American values -- they are Soviet values.
The strategy worked beautifully for Democrats in the midterms when their superpac backed the most extreme election-denying Republican candidates, helping them win the nomination -- and lose in the general elections.
Trump sucking the oxygen out of the room and leaving excellent Republican announced or potential candidates like DeSantis, Hayley, Pompeo, et.al., plunging in the polls is making Democratic strategists giddy.
The only thing Republicans can hope for is that Biden becomes the nominee.
In a backhanded way, I hope Bragg succeeds in gagging Trump. That would clear the field. Trump had his day, but his day has passed, and it's an open secret that the Democrats hope Trump wins the nomination, because they see him as the most beatable candidate. Fresh blood could succeed in re-uniting most of the Trump vote, especially against a weak candidate like Biden. Bragg doesn't realize that he might be doing the GOP a favor.
This was my sentiment pre-indictment but I think the indictment will secure martyrdom for him. Which he will love. Saint Donald. But is it possible that it will create a groundswell among those not previously pro-Trump? May be so.
I agree. I’ll never vote for Haley for president because she’s a war monger, but there are other great candidates. Vivek and DeSantis top my personal list. I still have a little bit of hope that time will allow emotions to settle and people to reconsider their unfulfillable hope that Trump will again rise from the ashes or something. I know for like 2-3 weeks after the raid on Trump’s home/ club in west palm I briefly went full on MAGA 2024 before returning to my senses about just how bad of an idea that was before the raid, and remains so afterward. I don’t think the Democrats helped the ploy by illegally “leaking” the indictment in order to watch the polls to ensure it would have the intended effect. It is just too obvious they wanted to go whichever direction was more likely to make Trump the candidate.
Yes, Democrats play “any means to an end” very well.
They have no shame at all.
This should be the top comment. I wish I could like it 1000 times!!
Lots of “BS” in this one:
1. There is no question there was abundant fraud, illegality, and rigging in 2020. NO QUESTION
2. A lot of what you state as fact is “alleged”
3. Hunter Biden has committed documented felonies. Hunter Biden was being paid off by Ukraine which should have been investigated. VP Joe Biden extorted/blackmailed Ukraine to stop an investigation into Hunter Biden’s corruption WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS
4. President Trump called Georgia to stop the fraudulent counting of illegal votes. He was calling for a legitimate vote count. Entirety appropriate
5. We had EVERY right to protest the fraudulent election. All REAL patriots should have. How many government agents were in the crowd encouraging going into the Capitol?
6. The Democrats are a corrupt criminal organization. They must go the way of the Whigs
7. You reap what you sow.
Thank you. My eyes were rolling as I read this article.
Same.
I would ask our commenters this question.
"What would you do if presented with irrefutable evidence that Biden did not win the 2020 election."
Well? What would you do?
Smile.
Why? It was deja vu for me in 2020 hearing the howls of Republicans seeing, recording, taping, and yelling at election malfeasance in Georgia, Michigan and elsewhere, and yet unable to rustle up enough proof to have a judge agree to open up proceedings on anything. The Dems claimed the same malfeasance in 2000 in Florida, the one state that would have turned the entire election around, with the same screaming antics and arm waving, but with no solid proof of anything. It embarrassed me.
What did the nation do? It moved on (to the mess we're in today..)
Were there election shenanigans in 2020? Maybe. Was there in 2000? Maybe.
Yet here we are.
They would close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears. They’re too stupid and lazy to spend any mental energy analyzing anything other what’s been fed to them.
Same thing they are doing now. Proof is not the issue.
At this point, try to make sure the same things do not happen in 2024.
“No question…..”
Apparently, over 60 judges, including all nine justices of the Supreme Court, almost half of whom were Republicans or appointed by Trump, disagreed with the premise of this comment and ruled accordingly.
Calling Sidney Powell, Mad Jack needs a lawyer.
Did even one of those judges dig into the evidence or did they dismiss on technicalities? If they had dug into the evidence, they could not have ruled as quickly as they did. So the canard about 60 judges rings hollow.
Ah thé “dismissed on technicalities “ argument. Anybody who can afford the filing fee can file a lawsuit. But the law requires that the complaint contain a bare minimum of factual assertions, usually backed by sworn affidavits, that must meet minimum standards of credibility.
It is not enough to just to claim something. In 59 of 60 cases filed by Trump(his lawyers prevailed in one case that did not change the results in Pennsylvania) his legal team failed to meet these minimum fact based thresholds( some , like Giuliani and Sidney Powell have sanctioned for filing frivolous claims)…. Because they couldn’t.
Audits done before and after the election bore out the validity of these decisions.
See in particular Arizona, where the Cyber ninjas hired by the Republican legislature to audit those results, came back with their report that actually added more votes for Biden.
Invite anyone in this thread to actually read any of those decisions.
Respectfully, you’re ignorant of the facts. None of those judges heard evidence but simply swatted away the cases based on lame technicalities. If you had been paying any attention AT ALL you also would’ve been bothered by the shenanigans. Unless you’re a leftist that is.
What facts? What evidence? None were shown to the judges sufficient enough to advance the claims.
No question? Any evidence.?? Trump already tried to 'find' just enough votes to overturn, and failed (even though you have to be really naive to think he actually meant 'finding').
He who has eyes let them see. Plenty of evidence, go make an honest search for it. Read “rigged” watch 2000 mules. Read abundant articles documenting illegal or fraudulent ballots. But I believe your mind is not open to this. I would hope that you know the Democrat party(and probably to a lesser degree the Republicans) have engaged in historic fraud, for decades. Tammany hall with Boss Tweed. 1960 JFK stole election. 1948 Johnson stole Senate seat. Fraud is notoriously hard to prove but over time the truth will come out over 2020, but way to late for justice to be done or for our country to be protected from Biden and his cabal
I don't know. There was documented fraud, as there is in almost every election. But it would have to be absolutely massive to have flipped enough votes to change the result. The GOP ran some crappy campaigns. They made the mistake that the Democrats usually make, that of believing their own push polls.
To me, the much bigger story, and the thing that is more likely to have changed the outcome of the election, is traditional and social media both going Izvestia for the Democrats, and censoring opposing voices at the direction of the government. And not a single government official has been prosecuted or even investigated for these civil rights violations. All of the big media in the U.S. today is controlled by the government apparatus, and they willingly submitted to it. Biden didn't need vote fraud to win. Why engage in onesey-twosey vote fraud, when the media is at your beck and call?
Heritage.org maintains a database of voter fraud convictions. Not a huge number, but fair to say, tip of the iceberg.
I love how there is no mention of Hilary's penalties for her transgressions with campaign finances? Paper thin for Hunter? And J6 being Trump's doing? I guess the author thinks jailing people for years without due process is okay under any circumstance, even when the review of the video indicates otherwise?
This article is a crock of establishment crap.
It does mention Hilary Clinton’s campaign finance issues. It says she only had to pay a fine for basically the same thing for which Trump is being indicted.
How about destroying evidence! Bleach bit?? Smashing cell phones??
Lying about a video being the cause of the Benghazi massacre.
Yeah the comment about his responsibility for January 6 was baffling. How was he responsible? That’s just stupid.
Keep going....
The most frightening aspect of the past few years has been the two-tiered system of justice. Hillary literally purchase the Steele Dossier and calls it “legal fees” and gets off with paying a fine. The Disinformation Industrial Complex pre-bunks the Hunter laptop and the deepstate FBI literally ignores his actual partner Tony Bobulinski’s actual live testimony into the many crimes of Hunter, Potus Joe Biden and family. Alvin Bragg, as DA refuses to prosecute any criminals yet tries ato put in jail not one but two victims who fight back in self defense and DJT is indicted in NYC. We are living in an upside down clown world and it keeps just getting worse.
Another example---
Douglass Mackey was sentenced to 10 yrs for a twitter prank telling people to text their votes for Hillary. There is an Asian woman on twitter doing the same thing, telling Trump voters to text their votes or vote in person on Wednesday.
We no longer have equal justice under the law, and that is terrifying.
It might also be galvanizing. If people would simply wake up and understand that everything worth living for in America depends on safeguarding our Constitution. Democrats can no longer be treated with kid gloves.
Political cartoons have been around forever but now suddenly a cartoonist goes to prison for cartooning
We are living in a banana republic that the democrats have created. Nothing is too far fetched for them not to be amplified as the crime of the century, no the millennium.
J6 was awful!!!! The 2020 blm riots egged on by such luminaries as Kamala Harris were nothing.
The 2020 election was not stolen!!!!! Except it’s obvious that it was and no one in the media or democrat pantheon cares, and why should they, they did it.
Stormy Daniels, the porn whore, is angelic. So she extorted, was paid, got an NDA and broke it and is now spreading her syphilitic germs everywhere again on sweaty one dollar bills but she’s a victim!!!!
It’s a circus that the democrats decry as they pimp for it.
Meanwhile, would the democrats have done anything differently on every front if they weren’t trying to destroy the country?
That is their goal. They hate the principles America was founded on. They hate genuine Christian faith. They hate the family. Very sick group.
Oh God Unwoke in Idaho has emerged from under his bridge to yell at some goats again...
The Free Press should be called “How Democrats Ruined America This Week”- bc it just doesn’t stop.
The Bragg indictment is just the latest outrageous example of the decline of America. DJT might even be found guilty by a progressive jury in uber-progressive NY. But he will be exonerated on appeal because there is obvious reasonable doubt that his motive was to avoid embarrassment and humiliation for his family. He also has a case for election interference because he was a president and has declared his candidacy again. He is not Teflon Don. He is the target of vicious far-left ideologues who feel threatened because he has attacked the foundations of their ideology - big government, wealth redistribution, and the lucrative ecosystem of big government money for meaningless and unnecessary work. Just to be clear, I do not support DJT for president again. He is a distraction because of his unorthodox behavior which is often hard to justify. But I want our justice system to apply the law equally to everyone, and this case is not that. And I would definitely prefer him to Biden.
I don’t recall Trump doing anything revolutionary during his Presidency. He governed like any ordinary Republican. Democrats don’t hate him for anything that he’s done, they hate him because he violates their new rules for speech and because they haven’t been able to cancel him and most of all because hating him is expedient. It’s become sort of a habit to hate him. Both the DNC and RNC hoped they could use Trump but they’ve both lost control.
Trump called to shut down the country and a lot of harm has flowed downstream from that. That’s revolutionary, and not in a good way. However mislead, however misguided, it was Trump why called for an economic shutdown on March 16, 2020.
Republicans I know are shocked that a lot of people who have been red-pilled in the last few years will NEVER vote for Trump. But look at it from the perspective of the parents and grand parents who have shifted right. Shutting down life is often what caused these people to be red pilled. Why would they support the guy who pulled the trigger first, criticized Kemp and DeSantis for reopening, and still brags about the “great” poison clot shots funded by an enormous taxpayer reallocation to big pharma? Trump had great policies for 3 years, but his 4th was marked be weak leadership, choosing Fauci over Atlas, and choosing government coercion over individual freedom and responsibility.
Granted, that has nothing to do with why Democrats hated Trump, which they did from day one long before Covid. Democrats would still be hysterical even if Covid had never happened and the economy was still booming.
I only point out that a full economic shut down is revolutionary because too often Republicans make excuses, or worse forgive, that most grave of errors. “Biden and the Democrats are worse.” True, but Trump opened the door and Trump started the “let’s shutdown” response.
Exactly this. Trump started the lockdowns, the Covid checks that spiked inflation, the uncontrolled PPP loans that were wasted, and rushed the development of the mRNA based vaccines that didn't work. I'm still pissed at the Dems for taking all of that to extremes after Biden got into office, but credit where credit is due.
I agree about Covid. I think Trump's biggest mistake was Fauci. He got played. My dilemma is whether it is worse to be deceived or to be deliberately complicit? I am going with deceived on this one because what reasonable person could have seen the depth of depravity being deployed with Covid. IOW I cannot see rewarding the puppeteers.
Trump likes confident take charge people who get "results". He has stated as much multiple times. So Im not surprised he let Fauci run wild. Decieved or not.
Fauci is a prime example of why I want term limits for bureaucrats. Polosi and McConnell are prime examples of why I want term limits for Congress.
Wholeheartedly agree. I am pretty cynical and I am shocked at the overreach of the odious little gnome.
Agree. Well, the Dems want inflation and to crush the middle class. That's been the very focused goal of their policies for decades. I am pissed they do it, but not in the least bit surprised. Dems openly claim they want centralized control and a very few people to tell the masses what is "fair" for the masses to own, do, participate in. It's hard to blame the Democrat party which is openly pro-centralization of everything, pro-redistribution, and pro-Oligarchy party for being pro-centralization of everything, pro-redistribution, and pro-Oligarchy.
My issue with Trump is that he pretends to be for fiscal conservatism, and he seems to acknowledge that overbearing government control has never, in the history of mankind, gone very well, yet when the opportunity arose his first inclination was "trust the government" and, while he'd barb with the faux "expert" class in government, he wouldn't calmy show the data and fire the fear mongers. I will probably never again vote for a Democrat - I don't like a party, or any person, who runs on policies that amount to "we despise children," but there are so many options that are better than Trump on the Republican side and I'm tired of his fan club making excuses for his handling of Covid. He wasn't nearly as bad as Biden and the Dems, but Trump wasn't nearly as good as DeSantis, Kemp, and others either.
I agree. Fauci was his gravest error and thst should not be overlooked. He has a CEO management style which is fine until you pick the wrong middle manager. In short he got played by the odious little gnome.
Well, there was the Abraham Accords. He floated drug cost reduction that are finally coming to fruition. No wars! NATO pays its bills. And all in the face of endless criticism and resistance. That was pretty different.
I am SO not a fan of Trump, but at the agency level I worked at, there weren’t ideologue political appointees... there were the usual R folks who run things during R administrations. And some selections were actually less political than in D Admins. One undersecretary had just stopped working for a D gov. Based on the press, I think we got a biased view of how the government was actually working.
Oops, forgot Operation Warp Speed.
Operation Warp Speed was the best thing he ever did. You can tell because first the opposition tried to turn us against it (“well, *I* wouldn’t take any TrUmP vaccine”) and then as soon as he was out they tried to claim it.
Operation Warp Speed was a deluded answer to the all-time delusion. We only needed the "vaccine" to stop the hysteria created. And, lots of people also got very rich.
I disagree. You can't judge a government policy based only on the opposition's political response. It must be judged on its merits. Had operation warp speed focused all of the funds on treatments and understanding the best protocols for good outcomes, it could have certainly been. But the built-in money to big pharma to "warp speed" a vaccine via a giant taxpayer reallocation the industry that has plead guilty to the most criminal abuses, and giving them liability protection from harm, was poorly conceived from the beginning.
Also, the shots didn't work!!! Look at the numbers. According to the NIH infection fatality rates of Covid average 0.23%. According to the CDC, by March 1st, 2023, 1,117,856 people in the US have died from Covid - or a population fatality rate just from Covid of 0.339% - higher than the infection fatality rate. It's "vaccinated" people dying, getting reinfected at higher rates, and having more severe disease with reinfections than the "unvaccinated," and it has been for well over a year now. That's to say nothing of the rise of "died suddenly."
The "models" claiming the vaccines "saved millions of lives" also claimed completely made-up and absurd infection fatality rates post vaccine for the unvaccinated ranging from 2%-3%. They then claimed that the lower than made up modeled IFR actually observed was from the "vaccine." No strain of Covid has ever come close to the modeled IFR. The initial Alpha and Beta strains, when everyone was "unvaccinated," had an IFR of 0.21%. Delta, that came post vaccine, had an IFR was about .34%. Omicron, which mutated into being in mostly unvaccinated South Africa, is around 0.07%. Trump's continued pride and both operation warp speed and these clot shots only shows he can't admit his own mistakes.
And also because he undermined the legacy press by going around them.
"lucrative ecosystem of big government money for meaningless and unnecessary work" -- YES! Lifetime employment, big salaries, spectacular benefits, guaranteed pensions, sick leave/annual leave/gym time, work from home -- my one regret is that I didn't latch on to one of these jobs, I'd be set for life.
"my one regret is that I didn't latch on to one of these jobs"
No, you wouldn't be able to live with yourself.
I was actually a government contractor for a while. Even if a civilian job was eliminated, they got the same pay for a lower GS job for two years -- giving them time to latch onto another one. And almost to the person they complained endlessly day in and day out. You're right, I wouldn't never have lasted.
"If the latest polling is correct, then Trump’s approval ratings have ticked up since the announcement of his indictment."
The Democrats have won the battle but set themselves back (perhaps mightily) in the war. In my utopian world instead of fetishizing about the orange man day and night they would be finding ways to make their own party better, put forward better politicians and win based on a platform of just being BETTER. I guess I just have lofty expectations though.
I really, really don't think the long term implications of the Trump indictment are going to be good. This sets a bad precedent for our country.
Neither party wants to be better. They just want to win.
De.ocrat policies cannot be simply misguided.
Bret Weinstein, D, recently tweeted that the democrat party should be treated like the rabid dog it is---put down. Tulsi, Musk, Taibbi, Shellenberger, all have declared they left the party. So I guess Bret is next.
They have no shame. They have gone full bat shit crazy and they like it.
Have paid close attention to Bret and Heather since the start of the whole Coof thing—though we’re political opposites. Cuz, hey, a pair of PhDs in evolutionary biology might know a thing or two compared to my local lefty neighbors who appear to take all their “science” from Facebook and Twitter.
American politics makes me sad; it has become so divisive and ugly that it’s tribal, maybe beyond repair. America faces many domestic and international issues, and we have a dysfunctional government, untrustworthy MSM, broken judicial system, and weakened military. The country is in real trouble.
"In kind political contributions".....hmmmm,
Although Mr. Lake continues the fiction that the 2020 election was not "stolen," let's talk about in kind contributions. Such as the millions of unvetted campaign contributions such as Zuck Bucks. The billions of dollars of "in kind" contributions from all the legacy media that not only pushed for Biden but lied about and suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop, that would have swayed the result. Or the machinations of the American Stasi - the FBI - still awash with Democrat partisans. You don't have to engage in the cheap and obvious tricks of ballot box stuffing or tossing ballots into the trash to steal an election. All you have to do is allow massive amounts of unsecure mail in ballots, phony stories, a litany of lies by mainstream media and suppression of people telling the truth.
Now, not content with corrupting our election process, Democrats are hell bent on subverting our cherished rule of law. And you counsel "moderation" and comity with such people? What will be left of America when they're done? Will you really want to live in such a place?
The 2020 election was not stolen. The Republicans lost too many of the moderates. Well, to be fair, Trump lost too many of the moderates and the bulk of the Republican party enabled him, and continues to enable him.
You failed to mention that Russiagate, so called, was an INVENTION of the Democrats, and THE FBI KNEW THIS AT THE OUTSET. Two men were acquitted of lying to the FBI because you cannot tell a lie to someone who is working with you.
And it's extraordinary that anyone would blame Trump for events that were clearly engineered by the FBI, Capital Police, and Nancy Pelosi, from firing tear gas into peaceful protesters, throwing old ladies down step, murdering two protesters, and using plain clothes Agents Provocateurs WE HAVE ON FILM pulling down barricades who were never charged.
I wonder daily about the reality testing of anyone buying any of this BS.
And Hunter is guilty as sin. Obviously. Unmistakeably. The Biden family is a crime family. Joe Biden takes bribes, and Hunter is his bag man. These claims were made undeniable by Hunter's laptop.
And then fail to understand his reaction to the false accusation. If you think about it like that all of the criticisms for being bombastic, narcissistic, grandiose, etc. fall flat. He new he had not colluded with Russia, he knew the legacy press was lying about him, he had to suspect at some point the FBI was complicit (and it was) hence the Deep State narrative. But he was right and those wrong-doers have never been held to account. And he is the one indicted. Maybe he should be, I have not seen the indictment. But he is not the only one.
Is it ethical to base a campaign for DA on persecuting a former president? The DA is supposed to uphold the law without bias. In this case, Braggs used bias against one man in order to win the office.
You misspelled prosecuting. Whether he's guilty or not remains to be seen.
I spelled "persecuting" correctly. There was no compelling reason to prosecute Trump for the charges cited. It's freaking silly and the only reason is to try to interfere with his campaign.
I was mostly being sarcastic.
The last thing team blue wants to do is take Trump off the table. This move is most likely designed to further solidify the chances that Trump will be the 2024 Republican nominee. Team Blue has beat him once with a very weak ticket and they probably feel confident they can beat him again. I mean look what his meddling did to the Republicans mid term performance.
All of which ignores the question of whether he's guilty in the eyes of the law. He's certainly guilty of the action. Cohen admitted as much and spent time in jail.
It's all bread and circuses though and the sooner people figure that out, the better.
Agree that Trump may not have been as helpful as he could have been in the 2022 mid-terms, but by the numbers, Trump-backed candidates for the House won 141 seats out of 162 endorsed and 17 out of 25 Senate seats.
The difference between 2020 and 2024 is that very few understood how incompetent and anti-American Biden was in 2020. We know the truth now.
I made my point badly apparently.
People who mistakenly think Donald Trump is the second coming of Jesus (Which as a Christian I find deeply disturbing given what he says and does on a regular basis) will blindly support anyone he endorses and eviscerate anyone he dislikes. That is a given.
The problem for the Republican party is that while those people are a sizeable (and again disturbing) minority, there are not enough of them, particularly in the swing states.
As for Biden, I'm not a fan, but he is to me, and many people not affiliated with team red or team blue the lesser of two evils.
Here's an exercise you might want to try, assuming you want to understand why many of us worry about Donald Trump and his supporters.
Compare and contrast Donald Trump and Joe Biden in regards to how they support or don't support the following definition of fascism.
"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
You'll have a very difficult time convincing me that Trump is not a wanna be dictatorial leader given his track record. And no, I don't care what the "mainstream" press says about him. All I care about is what he has done and said, and what he continues to do and say.
I reject that definition of fascism, especially as it relates to Trump and his style of governance. Fascism, as defined by its author, is the conscription of private enterprise into serving an authoritarian government, ostensibly for national security. Nationalism has little to do with it, since nationalism is also part of every nation regardless of the type of government. So is bigotry and forcible suppression of opposition. When did Trump forcibly suppress the opposition? In fact, it was his political opposition that released the full force of its operatives within the executive branch and their allies in the press to take him down. All of their hoaxes, tricks, and schemes failed. As it turns out, all it took was a vote of the people to remove him from office.
It is impossible to accuse anyone who believes in individual rights, limited (small) government, reduced government regulations, lower taxes, reducing foreign "entanglements", and the 1st and 2nd Amendment of being a fascist. Of the two administrations, which one is growing government in scale and power, trying to raise taxes, attempting to limit individual rights, promoting war, and opposing the 1st and 2nd Amendment?
Obviously, that's Biden and his Democratic Party.
BTW, I don't think anyone thinks Trump is the second coming of Christ. That's another DNC-Media smear. If any recent POTUS attained that equivalent status, it was Obama, "The One".