It’s not hard. Or at least it shouldn’t be. Disband DEI. Allow free speech. Ban heckling, intimidation or anything else that gets in the way of the free speech of others. Enforce bans with suspensions and expulsions. Problem solved.
DEI is racism and yet it has become entrenched in Universities and almost all institutions and corporations. It must be defeated and dismantles but it is not an easy or simple task. They have no intention of ceding the powers they have grabbed.
In his book The End of Race Politics, Coleman Hughes refers to the type of discrimination that goes with DEI programs as neo-racism. He advocates for making an effort to treat people equally regardless of race in both personal dealings and public policy. This means an end to Affirmative Action, DEI and all similar forms of discrimination.
Coleman Hughes expresses this so well. It seems so true and right that I am always amazed to hear the regressive DEI mouthpieces trying to argue with him. He always offers the MLK path of targeting for help by socioeconomic class rather than by “ skin color”.
He also stresses that in 2013 most Americans( black, white, brown etc) polled reported that race relations were good and continuing to improve.
Social Media allowed the DEI critical race ppl to disseminate broadly, false depictions of race relations and amplify them to suit their power grabbing agenda, to stoke anger and inflame hatred.
Doing away with meritocracy has be disastrous.
Steven Pinker did an interview this week titled What Went Wrong At Harvard, in which he describes how insidious and destructive DEI is..
One point Hughes makes is that favoring blacks and other minorities in college admissions usually benefits students from wealthy families, not those at the bottom of the economic ladder. He favors programs to assist the poor and disadvantaged rather than those with certain skin colors.
Allow me to say something reasonable. It is good the universities are being sued. It is also logical that they are adjusting accordingly. Losing a well publicized lawsuit because you hate Jews isn’t a look that most universities want. However, it would be nice to see one lawsuit gain enough traction to where damages are awarded.
Roughly half of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi or Sephardic (i.e., Middle East, Central Asia, North Africa). They were expelled or cleansed or fled to Israel to escape persecution or death after Israel was founded. They are now living in Israel, but not safe, since they are still being pursued by those who expelled them.
Any DEI program that gives preference to people of the same region who are not Jewish (over those who are Jewish), is obviously illegal. It is also, obviously immoral.
There is one way that is absolutely guaranteed to fix the situation completely. All you have to do is pass a law stating that no degrees granted by any university in one or more of the following categories will be recognized by the federal government - in other words, degrees from these universities will not be accepted in applications for any federal jobs:
1) Any university on which any students or faculty are allowed to threaten other students or faculty.
2) Any university in which student meetings are disrupted by students or faculty.
3) Any university in which race, religion, origin, or national identity is used in accepting students or hiring staff.
4) Any university in which violence occurs on a large scale.
5) Any university in which people demonstrate with their faces masked.
6) Any university in which free speech is violated on a large scale.
7) Any university in which faculty practices discrimination against students or other faculty on the basis of opinion, race, religion, origin, or national identity.
The beauty of such legislation is that it makes the universities responsible for everything that happens on campus and for enforcement of their supposed principles.
No university can afford non-recognition of its degrees, because no student will attend a university whose degrees will render them ineligible for federal jobs, so the universities will all fall over themselves to rectify the situation without any intervention by the government other than the withholding of degree recognition.
Any university in any of the above categories has no right to call itself a university.
I'm for free speech but colleges that don't allow racial slurs against other groups shouldn't allow them against Jews. If a college wouldn't permit students to carry signs or chant "Kill all the blacks," they shouldn't allow protesters to proclaim "Kill all the Jews." This doesn't mean shutting down debate about the war in Gaza, but plainly antisemetic messages aren't debate.
If a college would expel any student for a racist comment (no matter how far back in the student's past--which is something that has actually happened), they need to expel any student who makes an antisemitic comment. If a college would fire a professor for merely saying the "wrong thing" about the preparation of black students for college, they need to fire professors who promote antisemitic propaganda.
It is not a question of free speech. It is a question of blatant university biases and the actions that those universities take as a result. A student who thinks Israel is a genocidal, colonial, illegitimate state is literally safer on most college campuses than a student who thinks our southern border should not be open.
These kids are so emotionally weak and anxious that they will alternatively plead for answers like a child and berate an adult like a sullen preteen. And yet none of their behavior is anything resembling mature or adult-like. The kids are definitively not alright.
Although not directly on point this is a beautiful example of the distinction between pure democracy and the republic form thereof. While both recognize that power rests in the people, the republic form protects those people not part of the main group. In this scenario in a pure democracy the pro-Palestine faction prevails because it is the majority apparently. But in a republic the rights of the Jewish students are protected.
"That incident is just one example of a disturbing trend that has swept American campuses since the October 7 atrocities against Israel."
Really? Is THAT when this disturbing trend started? Are you FUCKING joking?
Jeezus H Masterblasting Christ on a fucking cracker you'd have to be as dumb as a subscriber to the New Yorker or the New York Times to believe that this "trend" started on October 7. No. You only just started paying attention...
The universities have been out of control for a long time. BUT it was not like it is now and it was not as bad and as violent. I’m guessing you are not Jewish and even with the best intentions you don’t comprehend the severity of what is going on.
I've been watching the growth of antisemitism on university campuses for over a decade.
Obamawasafool could have put his comment less crudely. But the reality is that most people--particularly the legacy media--didn't start paying real attention to the problem until Jewish students were getting attacked by pro-Hamas "protesters" on their campuses.
Hi, I’m not sure exactly what your point is, but I would probably phrase this differently. I would probably say that the mainstream media eventually addressed what is going on on college campuses and in city streets, because it was hitting them in the face and they couldn’t ignore it anymore. At first they did not acknowledge any of it and the situation for, Jewish students has been simmering and bad for a long time but It was not done so outwardly until now. But there were many anti-Semitic incidences on campuses for many years. But once you have hundreds of violent extremist protesters in the streets, you can’t ignore it forever. Also, since obviously antisemitism is racism, and the left and the mainstream media claim to be against that, at some point, they could not keep ignoring what was going on. Nevertheless, they still seem to be able to twist it, and to interpret and explain what is going on through their very narrow lens.
Obamawasafool injects just the right amount of civility into his commentaries and is measured in his crudeness. Leftism and leftist apologetics deserve nothing less than unrefined, unreserved opprobrium at every turn. This has NOTHING to do with anti-Semitism. The Democratic Party has been seeding the downfall of American institutions for decades and the chickens are coming home to roost. And only NOW will people like Bari Weiss wake up because the targets are Jews. Nothing Obamawasafool has ever done, said, or believed, comes even close to the mayhem, madness and misanthropy that leftists and apologists for the Democratic Party have wrought on society. Every person who can see the Democrats for what they are, should be unrelentingly hostile, impolite, crude, crass and vicious in their attacks against them. They deserve nothing less.
The "severity" of what is going on is that Democrats have controlled these places for decades and have brought Marxist ideology to the campus. I live in a Marxist state. I think it is people like you who do not understand the severity of what is going on...
I couldn't give a toss about Jews or any other fucking group. I only care about Americans. And the Democratic Party has been the most openly outspoken enemy of the American people for decades by allowing the ideology of the Soviet Union and Communist China to permeate our universities...
Although the lawsuits will change behavior and may begin to change people's views, I'm not sure they will change people's hearts. However, I'm glad to see that people and universities who are antisemitic are being forced to account for their behavior publicly.
Hit these universities in the pocket book. And in their brand status. The Gen Z students may be fine going to one of these schools, but their parents may be less fine paying for it…when “this” is what they might get for their $.
Harvard and Penn have already shown that $ talks. Let’s keep it going. Good on these lawyers working on this.
DEI cannot be reformed. That it only hiding the threat and allowing it to grow and evolve. DEI is religious totalitarianism and it must be banished and ended completely for the sake of civil democratic society.
Yes, DEI was a hypothesis that was forced everywhere while free speech was squelched. The DI movement from the late 90s was hijacked and an E was added and then the definition was reintroduced as equal outcome instead of equal opportunity. We have lived the consequences. It is nice to see that people are working and sacrificing their efforts to confront these destructive practices. May the progress continue.
I (a Gentile) agree with Kenneth Marcus that the entire DEI model should be dismantled and ask only that he broaden the basis of his opposition ("Jews will too often be defined as oppressors and told to own their privilege") so as to include people like me and my family.
I'm hoping he wouldn't approve of DEI if he thought his coreligionists could stake out a secure position in the oppressed camp.
It doesn't help that the NYT article about Kenneth Marcus listed only examples of campus antisemitism that were marginally or arguably not antisemitic such as complaints about roommates saying that Palestinians have rights. None of the strongly antisemitic events dilineated by Marcus in the above article were mentioned. This gave the false appearance that a cabal of wealthy Jewish alumni are pulling the strings. But I guess that was the whole point of the NYT article.
The NY Times is expert at phrasing its reportage in such a way that the reader is led to side with whatever side the NY Times supports. One of the most frequent tactics it uses is the cherry picking of facts. I beg your indulgence for a pointed joke.
A child falls into the lion enclosure at the Central Park Zoo. Just as a lion is about to attack and devour the child an Israeli tourist jumps over the fence, punches the lion in the snout and jumps back to safety with the child. The next day the Times headline reads, "Israeli attacks African immigrant and steals his lunch".
It should read European looking Cubans and Lebanese and Syrians and some Iraqis and Kurds too.....Argentines? Are they also now poc. It's insane. this hate isn't new...it was stirring when I was a kid at unveristy....so now it explode out of the undercurrent of student life and is making life at university for any free thinking kid a trial and a challenge.
It’s not hard. Or at least it shouldn’t be. Disband DEI. Allow free speech. Ban heckling, intimidation or anything else that gets in the way of the free speech of others. Enforce bans with suspensions and expulsions. Problem solved.
DEI is racism and yet it has become entrenched in Universities and almost all institutions and corporations. It must be defeated and dismantles but it is not an easy or simple task. They have no intention of ceding the powers they have grabbed.
In his book The End of Race Politics, Coleman Hughes refers to the type of discrimination that goes with DEI programs as neo-racism. He advocates for making an effort to treat people equally regardless of race in both personal dealings and public policy. This means an end to Affirmative Action, DEI and all similar forms of discrimination.
Coleman Hughes expresses this so well. It seems so true and right that I am always amazed to hear the regressive DEI mouthpieces trying to argue with him. He always offers the MLK path of targeting for help by socioeconomic class rather than by “ skin color”.
He also stresses that in 2013 most Americans( black, white, brown etc) polled reported that race relations were good and continuing to improve.
Social Media allowed the DEI critical race ppl to disseminate broadly, false depictions of race relations and amplify them to suit their power grabbing agenda, to stoke anger and inflame hatred.
Doing away with meritocracy has be disastrous.
Steven Pinker did an interview this week titled What Went Wrong At Harvard, in which he describes how insidious and destructive DEI is..
One point Hughes makes is that favoring blacks and other minorities in college admissions usually benefits students from wealthy families, not those at the bottom of the economic ladder. He favors programs to assist the poor and disadvantaged rather than those with certain skin colors.
Yep.
Allow me to say something reasonable. It is good the universities are being sued. It is also logical that they are adjusting accordingly. Losing a well publicized lawsuit because you hate Jews isn’t a look that most universities want. However, it would be nice to see one lawsuit gain enough traction to where damages are awarded.
DEI: Didn't Earn It.
They're now trying to say the DEI is equivalent to the N-bomb. People generally don't try to suppress arguments which they feel they're winning.
Roughly half of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi or Sephardic (i.e., Middle East, Central Asia, North Africa). They were expelled or cleansed or fled to Israel to escape persecution or death after Israel was founded. They are now living in Israel, but not safe, since they are still being pursued by those who expelled them.
Any DEI program that gives preference to people of the same region who are not Jewish (over those who are Jewish), is obviously illegal. It is also, obviously immoral.
These lawsuits are at best palliatives.
There is one way that is absolutely guaranteed to fix the situation completely. All you have to do is pass a law stating that no degrees granted by any university in one or more of the following categories will be recognized by the federal government - in other words, degrees from these universities will not be accepted in applications for any federal jobs:
1) Any university on which any students or faculty are allowed to threaten other students or faculty.
2) Any university in which student meetings are disrupted by students or faculty.
3) Any university in which race, religion, origin, or national identity is used in accepting students or hiring staff.
4) Any university in which violence occurs on a large scale.
5) Any university in which people demonstrate with their faces masked.
6) Any university in which free speech is violated on a large scale.
7) Any university in which faculty practices discrimination against students or other faculty on the basis of opinion, race, religion, origin, or national identity.
The beauty of such legislation is that it makes the universities responsible for everything that happens on campus and for enforcement of their supposed principles.
No university can afford non-recognition of its degrees, because no student will attend a university whose degrees will render them ineligible for federal jobs, so the universities will all fall over themselves to rectify the situation without any intervention by the government other than the withholding of degree recognition.
Any university in any of the above categories has no right to call itself a university.
I'm for free speech but colleges that don't allow racial slurs against other groups shouldn't allow them against Jews. If a college wouldn't permit students to carry signs or chant "Kill all the blacks," they shouldn't allow protesters to proclaim "Kill all the Jews." This doesn't mean shutting down debate about the war in Gaza, but plainly antisemetic messages aren't debate.
If a college would expel any student for a racist comment (no matter how far back in the student's past--which is something that has actually happened), they need to expel any student who makes an antisemitic comment. If a college would fire a professor for merely saying the "wrong thing" about the preparation of black students for college, they need to fire professors who promote antisemitic propaganda.
It is not a question of free speech. It is a question of blatant university biases and the actions that those universities take as a result. A student who thinks Israel is a genocidal, colonial, illegitimate state is literally safer on most college campuses than a student who thinks our southern border should not be open.
These kids are so emotionally weak and anxious that they will alternatively plead for answers like a child and berate an adult like a sullen preteen. And yet none of their behavior is anything resembling mature or adult-like. The kids are definitively not alright.
Although not directly on point this is a beautiful example of the distinction between pure democracy and the republic form thereof. While both recognize that power rests in the people, the republic form protects those people not part of the main group. In this scenario in a pure democracy the pro-Palestine faction prevails because it is the majority apparently. But in a republic the rights of the Jewish students are protected.
"That incident is just one example of a disturbing trend that has swept American campuses since the October 7 atrocities against Israel."
Really? Is THAT when this disturbing trend started? Are you FUCKING joking?
Jeezus H Masterblasting Christ on a fucking cracker you'd have to be as dumb as a subscriber to the New Yorker or the New York Times to believe that this "trend" started on October 7. No. You only just started paying attention...
The universities have been out of control for a long time. BUT it was not like it is now and it was not as bad and as violent. I’m guessing you are not Jewish and even with the best intentions you don’t comprehend the severity of what is going on.
I've been watching the growth of antisemitism on university campuses for over a decade.
Obamawasafool could have put his comment less crudely. But the reality is that most people--particularly the legacy media--didn't start paying real attention to the problem until Jewish students were getting attacked by pro-Hamas "protesters" on their campuses.
Hi, I’m not sure exactly what your point is, but I would probably phrase this differently. I would probably say that the mainstream media eventually addressed what is going on on college campuses and in city streets, because it was hitting them in the face and they couldn’t ignore it anymore. At first they did not acknowledge any of it and the situation for, Jewish students has been simmering and bad for a long time but It was not done so outwardly until now. But there were many anti-Semitic incidences on campuses for many years. But once you have hundreds of violent extremist protesters in the streets, you can’t ignore it forever. Also, since obviously antisemitism is racism, and the left and the mainstream media claim to be against that, at some point, they could not keep ignoring what was going on. Nevertheless, they still seem to be able to twist it, and to interpret and explain what is going on through their very narrow lens.
Obamawasafool injects just the right amount of civility into his commentaries and is measured in his crudeness. Leftism and leftist apologetics deserve nothing less than unrefined, unreserved opprobrium at every turn. This has NOTHING to do with anti-Semitism. The Democratic Party has been seeding the downfall of American institutions for decades and the chickens are coming home to roost. And only NOW will people like Bari Weiss wake up because the targets are Jews. Nothing Obamawasafool has ever done, said, or believed, comes even close to the mayhem, madness and misanthropy that leftists and apologists for the Democratic Party have wrought on society. Every person who can see the Democrats for what they are, should be unrelentingly hostile, impolite, crude, crass and vicious in their attacks against them. They deserve nothing less.
No, he's right. The Hamasterbaters have been on campus for a long time. Ask Bari Weiss.
The "severity" of what is going on is that Democrats have controlled these places for decades and have brought Marxist ideology to the campus. I live in a Marxist state. I think it is people like you who do not understand the severity of what is going on...
I couldn't give a toss about Jews or any other fucking group. I only care about Americans. And the Democratic Party has been the most openly outspoken enemy of the American people for decades by allowing the ideology of the Soviet Union and Communist China to permeate our universities...
Although the lawsuits will change behavior and may begin to change people's views, I'm not sure they will change people's hearts. However, I'm glad to see that people and universities who are antisemitic are being forced to account for their behavior publicly.
Hit these universities in the pocket book. And in their brand status. The Gen Z students may be fine going to one of these schools, but their parents may be less fine paying for it…when “this” is what they might get for their $.
Harvard and Penn have already shown that $ talks. Let’s keep it going. Good on these lawyers working on this.
Hit the ADMINISTRATORS in the pocketbook. Make them feel the pain. Either they pain fines or lose their jobs.
DEI cannot be reformed. That it only hiding the threat and allowing it to grow and evolve. DEI is religious totalitarianism and it must be banished and ended completely for the sake of civil democratic society.
Yes, DEI was a hypothesis that was forced everywhere while free speech was squelched. The DI movement from the late 90s was hijacked and an E was added and then the definition was reintroduced as equal outcome instead of equal opportunity. We have lived the consequences. It is nice to see that people are working and sacrificing their efforts to confront these destructive practices. May the progress continue.
I (a Gentile) agree with Kenneth Marcus that the entire DEI model should be dismantled and ask only that he broaden the basis of his opposition ("Jews will too often be defined as oppressors and told to own their privilege") so as to include people like me and my family.
I'm hoping he wouldn't approve of DEI if he thought his coreligionists could stake out a secure position in the oppressed camp.
https://thefamilyproperty.blogspot.com/2022/11/never-draws-near.html
It doesn't help that the NYT article about Kenneth Marcus listed only examples of campus antisemitism that were marginally or arguably not antisemitic such as complaints about roommates saying that Palestinians have rights. None of the strongly antisemitic events dilineated by Marcus in the above article were mentioned. This gave the false appearance that a cabal of wealthy Jewish alumni are pulling the strings. But I guess that was the whole point of the NYT article.
The NY Times is expert at phrasing its reportage in such a way that the reader is led to side with whatever side the NY Times supports. One of the most frequent tactics it uses is the cherry picking of facts. I beg your indulgence for a pointed joke.
A child falls into the lion enclosure at the Central Park Zoo. Just as a lion is about to attack and devour the child an Israeli tourist jumps over the fence, punches the lion in the snout and jumps back to safety with the child. The next day the Times headline reads, "Israeli attacks African immigrant and steals his lunch".
So true!
It should read European looking Cubans and Lebanese and Syrians and some Iraqis and Kurds too.....Argentines? Are they also now poc. It's insane. this hate isn't new...it was stirring when I was a kid at unveristy....so now it explode out of the undercurrent of student life and is making life at university for any free thinking kid a trial and a challenge.