It is impossible to overstate the gravity of the misconduct uncovered by Durham. His report is insanely damning of the FBI, the Clinton campaign, the Obama administration, and everyone involved in the Russia-Trump hoax.
Russiagate was appreciably worse than Watergate. It was far deeper in the bowels of the government and reached to the highest levels, a concerted effort by the deep state, the Clinton campaign, and a craven mainstream media to malign a presidential candidate and make him unelectable in the eyes of the public, an effort that persisted even after Trump was a sitting president. They tried to frame him to overturn an election, miring his administration in a faux scandal for years, with high-ranking officials paraded before grand juries and their guilt then proclaimed nightly on CNN and MSNBC.
Similarly, it is impossible to overstate the importance to the gravity of the media's silence and/or bias. It turns out that WaPo's Democracy dies in darkness was aspirational rather than cautionary.
To say they are actually revolutionaries gives them too much credit. They are mere functionaries and bureaucrats. They work at others bidding. Nothing more. That’s the pathetic part.
Important to note that none of it is illegal. Which is why you have to delete the agencies. Obviously, if none of that is illegal you live in an authoritarian tyranny.
Not illegal (maybe), certainly unethical. Remeber: morals are for humans, ethics are for lawyers. AI's first good use will be to get rid of the lawyers. Every single one of them.
Just a few years back, people like Clinton, Santos, even Biden, would bow out of a race because of tall tales or questionable doings. Ethical or even moral behavior is no longer important, it is only about power. The expectation these people will do the right thing is long gone. A reset is required.
Do not tar me with that anti-lawyer brush. I know many ethical, moral lawyers. Of course I do not know any in DC. Durham is a lawyer after all. Put the blame where it lies - Democrats and their allies in the alphabet agencies, legacy media, and social media.
Lynne, a few of my very good friends are attorneys, one even here in DC. They are all a tarred with the same stank of salesman bullshit for making something that should not be as near as complex as it is to only keep out the unwise layman. Lawyers are educated snake oil salesmen, some of them can write, most can't. And 95%+ of them are Democrats--it is part of the insular, I am smarter than you (did you know I am a pilot?...oh, sorry, I mean lawyer?) circle jerk.
The "professions" all hide behind sweeping generalizations and ring-knocking mumbo-jumbo to set themselves aside as "special".
The only profession that offers any truly supportive of the human condition is the medical profession...And even that is under attack from the DEI insanity that is the currency of today's lunacy.
Lynne, there is nothing special about the law that an educated layman can't master with some concentrated study.
Back in the days of John and Samuel Adams, students "read" the law under the tutelage of a recognized attorney. The study was a concentrated effort to understand how to read and write in English.
Of course, there is the matter of procedure, but that, too, is accessible through the Rules of criminal and civil procedure.
What is difficult is learning how to read the law for what it says, not what one might think it says. And, it is this latter point that trips many offering opinions on legal matters.
Most legal questions are relatively easy to answer if one is able to parse the grammar of a statute properly...Diagramming sentences is a useful and, unfortunately, and increasingly lost art.
Back in college, when I did standup, I had a bit about how when you start writing laws you forget obvious stuff and I re-enacted a scenario where they realized it was still legal to have sex with animals because they forgot to write that down as not okay.
The practice of today is to make the language of a statute so complex that a clever grammarian is capable of getting anything he might desire out of the text.
The lawmakers then retire and sell themselves as being the only ones properly to interpret the text.
It will not reset until someone important goes to jail.
There is a distinct possibility that someone, somewhere along the line will connect Joe Biden to the millions of dollars that the Chinese funneled to his sleaze of a son and equally distasteful brother. This could lead to the first president who is convicted of impeachment charges and the potential of the first U.S. president being convicted of a felony.
It is not something that I want our country to go through, but I don't see even a glimmer of ethical conduct coming from Biden or anyone associated with his family.
And because there won't be any charges or indictments, many people are celebrating the Durham report, claiming that it "exonerates" the FBI and Clinton.
It's the subjective reality all Democrats live in. It's why they can never be convinced of or even exposed to the failures of their ideals. There's only one way this comes to a head.
Maria Bartiromo and James Freeman wrote a book called "The Cost: Trump, China, and American Revival." In it, they talk about what happened in the FISA process as they were getting the warrants and the renewals. They were purposefully withholding exculpatory information that almost certainly would have gotten the applications rejected. I'm no lawyer and I haven't researched the actual legality of that, but it seems as though that would be illegal (it sort of fits the "I am knowingly lying" bit you mention). And, as someone else mentioned, it is unquestionably unethical. One way or another, heads should roll.
The only way to prove any of that is to indict and get discovery and you need the person with prosecutorial discretion to indict and that person is a Democrat.
For the love of God, Durham had Sussmann dead to rights and a jury of *his* peers would not convict. The judge had his finger on the scale before the trial started, warning Durham he didn't have enough, basically giving instructions to the jury on the expected verdict. Now, if these cases could be tried in West Virginia instead of D.C...
And you need the person indicted to tell the truth when they testify. Not so sure why anyone believes the people involved in this would feel any more likely to be honest just because they raised their hand in front of a judge and swore not to lie. They started lying decades ago when they told their mom it was the little brother who took the cookies and have been lying for so long now it is just habit to them.
It is illegal for them to withhold exculpatory information from the FISA court because there are no defense attorneys involved. The fact that the FISA court hasn't dragged the lawyers involved back in front of them shows me they are complicit. They are supposed to be the last backstop to prevent violating our rights but have abdicated their responsibilities in favor of partisanship too.
Kevin Klinesmith was found guilty of altering an email that was sent to the FISA court. That was clearly illegal and to me seems like a very serious charge. Yet, he received a sentence of 12 months probation. So even when illegality is found, a mere slap on the wrist was the sentence meted out. I think I remember that he was able to keep his law license, too. Given what he had done, he should have been disbarred, at a minimum, along with some serious jail time.
Substantially all of it is, if the report is accurate. Some of the violations might be these… false arrests, tampering with evidence, perjury, suborning perjury, blackmail, falsifying warrants, threatening witnesses, egregious violations of the Hatch Act, interfering in elections, using FISA structure to spy on citizens and public officials, sedition, insurrection.
But try to prove those charges beyond a reasonable doubt...And do that in a court system where most of those in the jury panels called to hear such cases are part of or dependent upon Deep State for their livelihood and who have historically returned Democrats to office with large margins.
What we need to do is move any case that involves a federal employee or a service, bureau, or agency of the federal government to a venue well outside the greater Washington, D.C. area. It is the only way that the good citizens of the United States can receive justice, not jury nullification.
I am very much a believer in the rule of law, personal liberty and property rights and do not subscribe to the religion you mention, or any other religion for that matter.
I don't believe that none of this was illegal, the DOJ as it is today would never prosecute any of their own team and Durham knows it. Lying to the FISA court to obtain illegal warrants? Misuse of government funds and resources to persecute low level staffers? Hiding evidence in cases like Flynn's? I'm pretty sure that if you looked a little, there is more than enough to prosecute people like Strozk and Page., amongst others. If this happened to a democrat like Clinton, you can bet your life that the DOJ apparatchiks and Lawfare buddies would be combing the books finding ways to charge the perps.
Oh yes I definitely agree that however much of this isn’t illegal definitely should be illegal
The main problem is that this is all done out of DC which is 97% Democrat and it could all be totally illegal and that wouldn’t matter because DC functions, in a literal technical sense, exactly like a banana republic.
The one who lied to the FISA Court, Kevin Klinesmith, got a fine and a suspended sentence.
His FBI/DoJ masters, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Andrew Weissman, and Loretta Lynch, have all skated free even though they had supervisory responsibility for the unethical activities of their subordinates.
Perhaps it is time for Congress to make those in the supervisory chain of command culpable and criminally responsible for any illegal activity undertaken under their authority to the extent that the perpetrator is liable.
That might get some of these politically motivated "civil servants" toeing the line.
Oh, so it's legal for public employees to favor one party's candidate in a national election and use clearly false "facts" to do so?
Obvioiusly FBI and CIA employees are free to vote for the candidates they favor in public elections. But for them to spend their work hours hacking for one candidate by defaming the other candidate with fake "evidence" is another thing altogether.
It's pretty clear these creeps thought they were doing the right thing to make sure a that a wonderful person like HRC prevailed against evil Donald Trump. Ends justify the means, after all.
They were wrong. If their behavior wasn't illegal, it damned well ought to be. Every participant in the setup should be fired, should forfeit any pension claims and should face criminal prosecution.
Federal employees at all levels should be scrupulously neutral politically at work, and they should NEVER use their employment to influence elections.
That's what honest, honorable people would have done.
When it came out that the Obama administration had, in fact, been involved in this fake investigation, it boggled my mind that no one except those on the far right were daring to make the comparison to Watergate, despite the fact that the comparison was clear.
In my experience conservatives are far more honest about the shortcomings and ethical problems on their side. The one time I saw a liberal admit fault, it only took the entire world's media saying COVID is real and not a racism conspiracy theory.
I know you are a bit slow on the uptake, but in simple terms that even you can understand, the Hillary campaign fabricated disinformation and the FBI, Prez, DoJ, Congress, and others used this to discredit Trump during and after a campaign. Trump never was 'colluding' with Russia.
I know this is hard for you but try and stay focused. The subject is The Wicked Bitch of the West, Hillary Clinton.
What do you think of her keeping a top secret server in her bathroom? Stay focused now and give a direct on topic answer. I know I am asking a lot. I may be asking too much of you.
Was it a "black eye" or "insanely damning?" My vote is with "insanely damning." Scrap whats there, rebuild with decentralization and congressional oversight.
It seems that you have done the “impossible”. Regardless of the “no collusion!”(a red herring BTW) exaltation, and whatever FBI institutional “sloppiness” and “confirmation bias” (conceded here) all one has to do is read Trump’s consistent lips:
Putin, a demonstrable war criminal, enemy of the United States, with thousands of innocent Ukrainian civilians’ blood on his hands, a dictator…is Trump’s friend and apparent role model.
Also note that Durham’s “impossible to overstate” “damning” report has produced only ONE indictment for a relatively minor offense.
I wrote my siblings the following before the 2020 election:
"Trump is not the cause of our national strife; his election is a symptom of dysfunctional American institutions.
A lot of the instability of the last four years has been driven by those failing institutions.
Hillary started the Crazy Train moving with the Steele dossier.
Obama was the stationmaster, doing nothing to stop it from leaving the station (July 28 discussion.)
Comey was the conductor who let it get out of control. He leaked; he missed the possibility of connecting dots between Clinton misinformation and the Trump/Russia collusion investigation. He has vague or no recollections of pivotal conversations.
The FBI were the switchmen, pushing the train in the direction of Trump guilt at every opportunity.
Pelosi and Schumer stoked the train’s engine when the Nunes report came out.
The Press was the cow catcher, clearing a path and removing any obstacles.
Trump probably won in 2016 as a protest vote. (I thought of 2016 as a choice between PT Barnum and Tammany Hall. I chose Barnum.)"
Nothing in the last three years has weakened what I said above. However, I did not anticipate the FBI shying away from investigations into Clinton. To continue the analogy, FBI leadership was actively derailing multiple trains meant to investigate Clinton.
Nothing compares to a confidential human source bribing the Clinton Global Initiative, succeeding in bribery, and then Hillary getting a defensive briefing from the FBI to let her know she was being bribed by a foreigner and that bribery is bad so don’t take the bribe.
I think people are not looking closely enough at how far back this went in the election process.
Trump was the Democrats' *chosen* candidate as the Republican opponent to Hillary, largely because he seemed to be the only one she could possibly beat. Way back in early 2016, I saw the media openly and continually promoting the assumption that the election would be Hillary vs. Trump. Trump should have gotten about as much attention as a serious candidate as Vermin Supreme, but the media gave him endless free space--the equivalent of MILLIONS of dollars of advertising--every single day.
I can't help but wonder if Trump was chosen by the Democrats specifically because they were already putting this collusion hoax together and he was the most plausible target for their purposes.
Very interesting hypothesis. It did seem that the media was bending over backwards to promote Trump--which made me so angry at the time. And now, knowing what we do, I wouldn't put anything past Clinton, Obama and the rest of the Dems...
I found it very puzzling at the time, although now the reason seems obvious.
Honestly, back in 2016, it was my theory that Trump--who was a good friend of the Clintons--ran as a spoiler for Hillary, having no expectation of winning. There were a lot of clues that this was the case, including the fact that every time Trump seemed to be pulling ahead in the polls in the fall of 2016, he would make some truly outrageous comment that would set him back again. And Melania appeared to be quite pissed off when the news came that her husband had actually won, as if he had assured her that it would all be over soon, and then it wasn't.
I still wonder if this wasn't the case. Trump's ego is such that can easily imagine him taking on his POTUS run as a casual favor, and then--when he accidentally won--running full speed ahead with the new role, gleefully stabbing his former pals in the back.
I think you misread a basic fact about Trump. You can see it in his response to Obama's fun making of him at the correspondents dinner before Trump decided to run for president. He might be lots of things, but taking crap is not one of them.
Celia M, I am impressed with your level of insight! Your theory, in light of all the craziness that is going on in the US these days, is sounding more and more plausible to me. It also adds to my conviction that so much of what is going on today is a modern-day version of "theater of the absurd" and is perfect fodder to be turned into a play or novel "based on true events" that would document the unbelievable levels of bull%$#@ which we are now being subject to. At least that way we could laugh through our tears.
The 2024 seems to be a repeat on who is spotlighted. Very dim if any spotlight on Nikki Haley or Vivek Ramaswamy. There are hardly any press ripples when Haley makes a statement about abortion or Vivek when an article comes out on the 9 ways he can beat Trump. DeSantis is only covered when fighting Disney despite his state recovering from an hurricane.
That is exactly what the Democrats did. They felt Trump was the easiest candidate for Hillary and actively promoted him. Remember, Strozk texted Page about the insurance policy they had to derail him.
Not sure he did, but the increasing levels of fraud uncovered in local/county votes worries me and will continue to diminish public confidence in the electoral system.
Drop boxes for mail in ballots were set up in Madison, WI. Problem was, it was too early for mail in balloting and they were deemed illegal...but too late!
And Philadelphia changed the voting laws without the state assembly passing any changes. Come on, there were tons and tons of irregularities that could have and likely did sway votes.
They, fewer I believe, may be as determined but I don't think stronger...they are only human...and tired. Their lies are catching up, whether they will ever admit or not. As always, the questions are about the voters...are there enough who will stand in privacy.
Maybe not now.. but I DO believe things are changing. The mostly white progressives who run media, culture, etc and the dem party can't hold on forever.
My HOPE is that they screw up SO badly (and they might) that their coalition starts to fall apart. They can't lose the Black vote and still win, for example, no matter how many voters they try to import over the border.
ALSO, the legacy media is now hated by anyone who isn't a hard-core partisan.
So.. their structural advantages are starting to erode.
And they are so unbelievably self righteous and self deluded they can't see it. Won't see it.
Sounds good, but recent generations have been trained/educated by teachers unfamiliar with the First Amendment and in high schools that no longer require a civics class. They are unfamiliar with Foucault's (not entirely evil) intellectual pivot of European thought and how it has been distorted for unrelated purposes in the US.
Our stupidiity, reaffirmed by simplified AI know-nothings, is making us lazier every year.
Marty, I'm curious whether the input you provided to your siblings had an impact.
A similar effort was made by my brother to our large sibling group. It had no impact on my several sisters who had swallowed the legacy media presentation. I asked him why he tried, given the expected futility, and confessing that I take the silent route to avoid family strife. He said he wouldn't want to admit to himself that he didn't at least try.
Mary, if you are asking if I red pilled anyone, the answer is "no."
My motivation was simple: if the FBI actively favors one candidate or especially one political party over another, our Republic is disappearing fast. Politics came up in our family Zoom, and I had to express that existential concern.
I wrote an e-mail with MSM sources that showed that the Russia collusion story was a hoax. I would send a few updates when Durham made news; I included my analysis and open questions.
I don't think I really moved the needle much. My brother is a high school English teacher; he said that he would use my work on this as an example of "dispassionate consideration." At least he does not view me as a right wing conspiracy nut.
On the other hand, I tried to summarize the censorship regime exposed in the Twitter files, which is as great or greater an existential threat than the Russia collusion episode. That didn't generate a response.
To be fair, my brother has zero bandwidth during the school year and my sister is busy as well. Maybe we can get into this a little further once school is over.
Before being deleted from The Dispatch, which I was a $1500 founding member of, I told everyone in the comments section, several years ago, that Natalia Veselnitskaya, the girl from the Trump Tower meeting, was a Hillary Clinton hired Russian spy. She was.
Everyone laughed at me.
Veselnitskaya, by the way, is the reason that Russia knew of Hillary’s Russia scheme in 2016 before everyone else. Brennan told Obama and company about it and Brennan still doesn’t know how Russia knew first; but it’s Natalia.
I also told everyone about how Joe Biden had keys for a DC office with Gongwen Dong, a now-dead Chinese spy, 45 days after Charlottesville, which is allegedly the day Joe decided to become President to save our souls.
The Democrat voting base of non-citizens, transvestites, released prisoners, and middle-aged whores, have really outdone themselves this time.
KD, you consistently crack me up! I think you’re the only person who hates HRC as much as I do. What a lying vile crook she is. Plus a murderer! And married to a rapist. God, think of Chelsea’s upbringing.
Anyone with a lobe's worth of insight could see it was a hoax and, indeed, a farce. The 2020 election was indeed stolen—not by vote-fixing but by an unhinged conspiracy theory Democrats, the media and the deep state gleefully trumpeted while accusing everyone who wouldn't go along of being unhinged conspiracy theorists.
I think we all need to learn more about some actions taken by the Obama White House allowing the executive branch to interfere in the electoral process in the states. I have seen glancing references to this and it seems likely that these alterations facilitated the remarkable if unbelievable number of votes credited to Biden. If you know more, please share!
The FBI is the enemy of the people. It should be dismantled. Failing that it should be chopped in half and the HQ placed in Lander Wyoming. Or Fort Stockton TX.
One of the whistleblowers testified as to how the FBI destroyed him and that he would warn other whistleblowers not to speak up. My God, we are no better than the Soviets. What makes me despondent is that younger people either don’t care or see all this as business as usual.
Umm, yeah, this is a lie. Neither one of the agents participated in January 6th. According to Politico, the FBI pulled Marcus Allen's clearance because he showed sympathy for members of the different groups who were there. Steven Friend refused to be a part of the execution of search warrants and arrests. Friend also claimed that he felt the defendants wouldn't get a fair trial in DC.
Nowhere in either article did it say that either man was there on January 6th.
Umm, yeah, this is a strawman....not saying "participation" saying they lost security clearance because of their Jan 6th conspiracy buffoonery and participating support for people who tried to overthrow the government, etc. Got it?
But, hey....that's cool. If you can't keep employing FBI agents who support insurecctionists, what hope is there?
"Umm, yeah, this is a strawman....not saying "participation" saying they lost security clearance because of their Jan 6th conspiracy buffoonery..."
Umm, yeah you did say participation. I have the screen shot from BEFORE you changed your answer. But hey, that's cool. If the facts don't fit your original post, change it and go from there.
You don't disbanded it you prosecute the conspirators send them to prison for 30 years, no parole and tell everybody else in the FBI and CIA, if any of them play partisan politics, they will go to prison too,
What the FBI did is criminal and shameful. But the most egregious and unforgivable thing is that half of this country will ignore this and not see our government and the MSM for what it is. That is the true crime.
“Conventional wisdom” the last seven years was that the FBI was out to get Hillary Clinton? No. Where did you acquire this “wisdom”? In conservative circles we’ve known for seven years what you, Mr. Lake, have apparently just awakened to: Yes, the FBI was protecting her, not persecuting her. You should leave your info bubble more often. Scrap NPR, PBS, the NYT, CNN. You won’t get the truth there.
Ding ding ding ding!!! NONE of this is news in 2023. That’s like being shocked the coronavirus came from the Wuhan lab’s GoF research (that we pay for).
Do you think it would help Democrats win in 2024, with a rally around the flag sort of thing, if ‘The Russians’ attacked American infrastructure next year?
I'm shocked, SHOCKED to discover there was wholesale corruption at the FBI.
This is all well and good but, these perpetrators are above the law, untouchable and the law doesn't apply to them. Not to HRC, Comey, McCabe, Morell, Brennan, Clapper and the rest or the 51. At this late date, it seems the height of naivete to expect accountability.
Ergo:
1. Nothing is going to happen.
2. No nooses will be tightening.
3. No walls will be closing in.
4. No heads will roll.
5. Nobody will be hauled off to the hoosegow, least of all HRC.
To paraphrase an applicable quotation: if you want to know who rules over you, find out which people can commit any crime and not be charged or convicted.
If the democrats get away with this--Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Strozk, et alia---they will just keep doing it. We are sunk. The Republicans don’t have what it takes to crush this.
Along with the Republicans, it is also a betrayal to the Democrats, Independence, etc. All the voters who want politicians that represent them and not a every tightening and more exclusive cabal of the precious.
I still think it stinks that Sanders who could have taken CA pulled out just before the primary election. Something shady happened there also! This is not based on a love of Sanders but a deep respect for a system that although operated by humans continually strives to serve the idea of a government by the people & for the people.
Maybe the only Republican who has what it takes is Trump. And during his second term, he would have his "eyes wide open" regarding the deep state. E,g,, not continuing with Comey as FBI director, and other reappointment. I think he naively (and understandably) thought that the bureaucracy would fall in line behind the POTUS. Now he knows better and would act accordingly!
Unfortunately, Trump is still an amateur at the game and the Donkeys are professional politicians (and I mean that in the worst possible way). Trump needed (and needs) a close ally with a strong legal and political background in DC, not some halfwit like Giuliani.
Only the biased MSM thought the FBI was out to get Hillary. They were all covering for Hillary, and ignored the obvious. This is not news ... unless you have been asleep for 7 years.
None of this is surprising to anyone who was paying attention during this time. But I am a little surprised that this story is published here. Bari has made no secret of her devotion to Orange Man Bad.
Or is it simply that no one on the Left will believe the Durham report regardless?
No one on the Left will admit to believing the Durham Report, whether they believe it or not. They are all in damage control mode, slandering Durham, Barr, the Report, the need for this report etc.
The *reaction* to the revelation is the only meaningful difference from Watergate. Nixon resigned because it was made plain to him that there were enough Republicans in Congress willing to impeach him that it was better for him to go of his own accord.
The Democrats in Congress will take NO action against the Democrats involved in the Collusion Investigation. They are perfectly safe.
It was not "conventional wisdom" that the FBI was out to get Hillary Clinton. It was conventional self-delusion. Anyone even remotely paying attention knew that the FBI and the DOJ were protecting her, and the author here doesn't even go into the major failings of Midterm Exam. Let's just say that there was enough uncontested information in the public domain to put anyone but a highly-placed Democrat in prison for 40 years. And we won't even go into how they conducted the "investigation." Comey actually wrote up the exoneration memo before the investigation even started.
The author also omits key information about why Midterm Exam was reopened shortly before the election. This was not a voluntary decision on Comey's part. The New York Post (or maybe it was the Daily News), had discovered that the FBI had buried some evidence that further implicated Hillary, and had asked the FBI to comment on it so that they could include that in their story. Had Comey not reopened the investigation, the first we would have heard about the evidence would have been the newspaper story, and then we'd have spent the rest of the campaign discussing why the FBI had refused to investigate her. So, to prevent that, he pretended to reopen the investigation, thus preempting the Post story. Then after a few days he loudly proclaimed that there wasn't anything to it (even though, of course, there was) and closed the investigation again. It was obviously cover for Hillary even when it happened. No-one could seriously claim that they were attempting to damage her.
A private server????? Like, that wasn’t a problem for a secty of state who also had a foundation that accepted foreign donations? I always thought Putin wanted her to win because he knew how compromised the Clintons were. Photos? No problemo.
A little late, Eli. Most sane, curious, and honest people reasonably suspected that the FBI was corrupt when it chose not to record and transcribe its unsworn July 2016 interview of Clinton about her destruction of the 33,000 subpoenaed emails (including classified emails) on her unauthorized home server.
The remaining sane, curious, and honest people were convinced three days later, on 7/5/16, when Comey, supplanting the prosecutor (AG Loretta Lynch), declared that "no reasonable prosecutor" would have charged Hillary with a crime based on that interview. He claimed she'd acted with at most "extreme carelessness" rather than the "gross negligence" required by statute -- a meaningless distinction of his own contrivance. Comey should have been required to explain then and there why Clinton's egregious actions were anything short of "willful" -- the highest statutory standard of all. He wasn't.
Hoax and farce are too weak of terms. This a full fledged assault on our democracy by the “Pol Pot Progressives. Anywhere there is a Pol Pot Progressive DA or US attorney, you can write off that jurisdiction as being captured by the enemies of our democracy - as the full weight of government is then brought to bear against political opposition and a criminal carte Blanche awarded to the Pol Pot Ptogressives. No longer being taught civics in our schools - that being replaced with revisionist history indoctrination - and 24/7/365 brainwashing reinforced with smart phones loaded with social media - the most effective brainwashed tools in history. Note how Elon Musk used to be a Pol Pot Progressive hero - and how easily the Trump hatred brain circuits were trained on Musk when he eliminated Twitter as a core Pol Pot Progressive brainwashing tool. Sadly the 2nd Amendment may be our last line in defense of our democracy as the stark reality and indisputable case being made for tyrannical bastardization of the justice and intelligence system by the Democratic bounces off the deaf ears of the brainwashed.
It is impossible to overstate the gravity of the misconduct uncovered by Durham. His report is insanely damning of the FBI, the Clinton campaign, the Obama administration, and everyone involved in the Russia-Trump hoax.
Russiagate was appreciably worse than Watergate. It was far deeper in the bowels of the government and reached to the highest levels, a concerted effort by the deep state, the Clinton campaign, and a craven mainstream media to malign a presidential candidate and make him unelectable in the eyes of the public, an effort that persisted even after Trump was a sitting president. They tried to frame him to overturn an election, miring his administration in a faux scandal for years, with high-ranking officials paraded before grand juries and their guilt then proclaimed nightly on CNN and MSNBC.
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/the-durham-report
Similarly, it is impossible to overstate the importance to the gravity of the media's silence and/or bias. It turns out that WaPo's Democracy dies in darkness was aspirational rather than cautionary.
I really hate it that we still call them ‘the media’.
It’s like calling the guy who rapes everyone ‘the plumber’ because he has a van.
THEY. ARE. COMMUNIST. REVOLUTIONARIES.
That makes them sound too important. I think of them as just whores.
Presstitutes.
Even better
To say they are actually revolutionaries gives them too much credit. They are mere functionaries and bureaucrats. They work at others bidding. Nothing more. That’s the pathetic part.
The banality of evil
They are Post Modern Racist Communists.
Tell this forum Kevin, they don’t seem to get it.
Good lies begin with what we all want to believe, here that the Post COULD be honest, or wants to be.
Important to note that none of it is illegal. Which is why you have to delete the agencies. Obviously, if none of that is illegal you live in an authoritarian tyranny.
Not illegal (maybe), certainly unethical. Remeber: morals are for humans, ethics are for lawyers. AI's first good use will be to get rid of the lawyers. Every single one of them.
Just a few years back, people like Clinton, Santos, even Biden, would bow out of a race because of tall tales or questionable doings. Ethical or even moral behavior is no longer important, it is only about power. The expectation these people will do the right thing is long gone. A reset is required.
Do not tar me with that anti-lawyer brush. I know many ethical, moral lawyers. Of course I do not know any in DC. Durham is a lawyer after all. Put the blame where it lies - Democrats and their allies in the alphabet agencies, legacy media, and social media.
Lynne, a few of my very good friends are attorneys, one even here in DC. They are all a tarred with the same stank of salesman bullshit for making something that should not be as near as complex as it is to only keep out the unwise layman. Lawyers are educated snake oil salesmen, some of them can write, most can't. And 95%+ of them are Democrats--it is part of the insular, I am smarter than you (did you know I am a pilot?...oh, sorry, I mean lawyer?) circle jerk.
The "professions" all hide behind sweeping generalizations and ring-knocking mumbo-jumbo to set themselves aside as "special".
The only profession that offers any truly supportive of the human condition is the medical profession...And even that is under attack from the DEI insanity that is the currency of today's lunacy.
Medical profession? Ya mean those guys that cut healthy breasts and/or penises off of children? Sorry, that profession has also become a "profession."
I hope you need one soon then.
Absolutely the first thing I am going to do is refer them to these very comments here. And then laugh when I hear their retainer.
Lynne, there is nothing special about the law that an educated layman can't master with some concentrated study.
Back in the days of John and Samuel Adams, students "read" the law under the tutelage of a recognized attorney. The study was a concentrated effort to understand how to read and write in English.
Of course, there is the matter of procedure, but that, too, is accessible through the Rules of criminal and civil procedure.
What is difficult is learning how to read the law for what it says, not what one might think it says. And, it is this latter point that trips many offering opinions on legal matters.
Most legal questions are relatively easy to answer if one is able to parse the grammar of a statute properly...Diagramming sentences is a useful and, unfortunately, and increasingly lost art.
Here, here--and well and succinctly said!
Back in college, when I did standup, I had a bit about how when you start writing laws you forget obvious stuff and I re-enacted a scenario where they realized it was still legal to have sex with animals because they forgot to write that down as not okay.
Same thing here.
Precisely. Maxim of a good law: simple to understand and easy to follow. The expectation of today seems to be to legislate morality.
The practice of today is to make the language of a statute so complex that a clever grammarian is capable of getting anything he might desire out of the text.
The lawmakers then retire and sell themselves as being the only ones properly to interpret the text.
It will not reset until someone important goes to jail.
There is a distinct possibility that someone, somewhere along the line will connect Joe Biden to the millions of dollars that the Chinese funneled to his sleaze of a son and equally distasteful brother. This could lead to the first president who is convicted of impeachment charges and the potential of the first U.S. president being convicted of a felony.
It is not something that I want our country to go through, but I don't see even a glimmer of ethical conduct coming from Biden or anyone associated with his family.
Today it’s a prerequisite sadly
And because there won't be any charges or indictments, many people are celebrating the Durham report, claiming that it "exonerates" the FBI and Clinton.
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1658199529592868864?s=20
Sick country we live in!
It's the subjective reality all Democrats live in. It's why they can never be convinced of or even exposed to the failures of their ideals. There's only one way this comes to a head.
I'm pretty sure lying to the FISA court isn't legal.
It is 100% legal as long as they don’t have documents where you say
“I am knowingly lying and this isn’t a mistake.”
Same reason Horowitz found no indication of political motivation.
Because no one ever said
“We need to do this to stop Republicans because we are Democrats.”
The truth is obvious but they know what you need to convict.
Maria Bartiromo and James Freeman wrote a book called "The Cost: Trump, China, and American Revival." In it, they talk about what happened in the FISA process as they were getting the warrants and the renewals. They were purposefully withholding exculpatory information that almost certainly would have gotten the applications rejected. I'm no lawyer and I haven't researched the actual legality of that, but it seems as though that would be illegal (it sort of fits the "I am knowingly lying" bit you mention). And, as someone else mentioned, it is unquestionably unethical. One way or another, heads should roll.
The only way to prove any of that is to indict and get discovery and you need the person with prosecutorial discretion to indict and that person is a Democrat.
For the love of God, Durham had Sussmann dead to rights and a jury of *his* peers would not convict. The judge had his finger on the scale before the trial started, warning Durham he didn't have enough, basically giving instructions to the jury on the expected verdict. Now, if these cases could be tried in West Virginia instead of D.C...
And you need the person indicted to tell the truth when they testify. Not so sure why anyone believes the people involved in this would feel any more likely to be honest just because they raised their hand in front of a judge and swore not to lie. They started lying decades ago when they told their mom it was the little brother who took the cookies and have been lying for so long now it is just habit to them.
It is illegal for them to withhold exculpatory information from the FISA court because there are no defense attorneys involved. The fact that the FISA court hasn't dragged the lawyers involved back in front of them shows me they are complicit. They are supposed to be the last backstop to prevent violating our rights but have abdicated their responsibilities in favor of partisanship too.
A judge on the panel that approved those FISA applications is now IN CHARGE of the FISA court.
There is no way that he is going to do anything that would rock the boat.
...Which is a very sad statement as to the state of the federal bench in the federal District of Columbia courts.
None of it is illegal? Seriously? Someone had got to be able to make people pay for this. Lawsuits? Indictments? C’mon I need some justice here.
Kevin Klinesmith was found guilty of altering an email that was sent to the FISA court. That was clearly illegal and to me seems like a very serious charge. Yet, he received a sentence of 12 months probation. So even when illegality is found, a mere slap on the wrist was the sentence meted out. I think I remember that he was able to keep his law license, too. Given what he had done, he should have been disbarred, at a minimum, along with some serious jail time.
Substantially all of it is, if the report is accurate. Some of the violations might be these… false arrests, tampering with evidence, perjury, suborning perjury, blackmail, falsifying warrants, threatening witnesses, egregious violations of the Hatch Act, interfering in elections, using FISA structure to spy on citizens and public officials, sedition, insurrection.
The list goes on.
Yea, Han, all of those ARE possible...
But try to prove those charges beyond a reasonable doubt...And do that in a court system where most of those in the jury panels called to hear such cases are part of or dependent upon Deep State for their livelihood and who have historically returned Democrats to office with large margins.
What we need to do is move any case that involves a federal employee or a service, bureau, or agency of the federal government to a venue well outside the greater Washington, D.C. area. It is the only way that the good citizens of the United States can receive justice, not jury nullification.
I am very much a believer in the rule of law, personal liberty and property rights and do not subscribe to the religion you mention, or any other religion for that matter.
Shocking.
I don't believe that none of this was illegal, the DOJ as it is today would never prosecute any of their own team and Durham knows it. Lying to the FISA court to obtain illegal warrants? Misuse of government funds and resources to persecute low level staffers? Hiding evidence in cases like Flynn's? I'm pretty sure that if you looked a little, there is more than enough to prosecute people like Strozk and Page., amongst others. If this happened to a democrat like Clinton, you can bet your life that the DOJ apparatchiks and Lawfare buddies would be combing the books finding ways to charge the perps.
Oh yes I definitely agree that however much of this isn’t illegal definitely should be illegal
The main problem is that this is all done out of DC which is 97% Democrat and it could all be totally illegal and that wouldn’t matter because DC functions, in a literal technical sense, exactly like a banana republic.
The one who lied to the FISA Court, Kevin Klinesmith, got a fine and a suspended sentence.
His FBI/DoJ masters, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Andrew Weissman, and Loretta Lynch, have all skated free even though they had supervisory responsibility for the unethical activities of their subordinates.
Perhaps it is time for Congress to make those in the supervisory chain of command culpable and criminally responsible for any illegal activity undertaken under their authority to the extent that the perpetrator is liable.
That might get some of these politically motivated "civil servants" toeing the line.
Oh, so it's legal for public employees to favor one party's candidate in a national election and use clearly false "facts" to do so?
Obvioiusly FBI and CIA employees are free to vote for the candidates they favor in public elections. But for them to spend their work hours hacking for one candidate by defaming the other candidate with fake "evidence" is another thing altogether.
It's pretty clear these creeps thought they were doing the right thing to make sure a that a wonderful person like HRC prevailed against evil Donald Trump. Ends justify the means, after all.
They were wrong. If their behavior wasn't illegal, it damned well ought to be. Every participant in the setup should be fired, should forfeit any pension claims and should face criminal prosecution.
Federal employees at all levels should be scrupulously neutral politically at work, and they should NEVER use their employment to influence elections.
That's what honest, honorable people would have done.
“That's what honest, honorable people would have done.”
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DC is 95% Democrat.
Whatcha smoking, bud?
Nothing.. I'm politically unaffiliated.. You got a problem with that?
Yip that’s the truth, although nobody wants to hear or read it
When it came out that the Obama administration had, in fact, been involved in this fake investigation, it boggled my mind that no one except those on the far right were daring to make the comparison to Watergate, despite the fact that the comparison was clear.
Context is everything. When Watergate was disclosed everyone cared. Today each runs to defend their political side of the story.
In my experience conservatives are far more honest about the shortcomings and ethical problems on their side. The one time I saw a liberal admit fault, it only took the entire world's media saying COVID is real and not a racism conspiracy theory.
I would like to hear some committed democrats weigh in on their votes for Hillary. Knowing what we now know.....are you ashamed? Bari? Nellie?
What do we now know?
I know you are a bit slow on the uptake, but in simple terms that even you can understand, the Hillary campaign fabricated disinformation and the FBI, Prez, DoJ, Congress, and others used this to discredit Trump during and after a campaign. Trump never was 'colluding' with Russia.
I know you're a bit slow, but none of that is in the report.
Fascinating.
None of it still in the report, though.
And most of the Democrats in my life will support and justify it. There's absolutely no low to which their party can stoop that they won't justify.
And this doesn't even cover the 2020 election meddling as the FBI sat on Hunter's laptop and lied about it to help Biden's campaign.
Sat on Hunter's laptop?
Goodness, they've buried it.
It continues to this day.
Back in the early 1980s I had a top secret clearance. If I had done a 10th of what Hillary had did, I would still be in prison.
Same here. If I did when I was in the Navy what she did as Secretary of State, I would have.spent years in Portsmouth Naval Prison.
Most would.
Hillary is brazen - I don’t think she notices or cares. She knows she’s protected by the Deep State.
The Clintons believe the law doesn't applies to them and so far, they have been proven right.
Gen. Flynn?
I know this is hard for you but try and stay focused. The subject is The Wicked Bitch of the West, Hillary Clinton.
What do you think of her keeping a top secret server in her bathroom? Stay focused now and give a direct on topic answer. I know I am asking a lot. I may be asking too much of you.
Was it a "black eye" or "insanely damning?" My vote is with "insanely damning." Scrap whats there, rebuild with decentralization and congressional oversight.
I think "black eye" fits under the heading of "insanely damaging".
Unfortunately, the Democrats will put their blindfolds on, put their fingers in their ears, and start singing la-la, la-la
It seems that you have done the “impossible”. Regardless of the “no collusion!”(a red herring BTW) exaltation, and whatever FBI institutional “sloppiness” and “confirmation bias” (conceded here) all one has to do is read Trump’s consistent lips:
Putin, a demonstrable war criminal, enemy of the United States, with thousands of innocent Ukrainian civilians’ blood on his hands, a dictator…is Trump’s friend and apparent role model.
Also note that Durham’s “impossible to overstate” “damning” report has produced only ONE indictment for a relatively minor offense.
Often best to avoid stumbling over the facts.
Go back to MSNBC. You're embarrassing yourself.
Yeah, right.
Yet you did.
I wrote my siblings the following before the 2020 election:
"Trump is not the cause of our national strife; his election is a symptom of dysfunctional American institutions.
A lot of the instability of the last four years has been driven by those failing institutions.
Hillary started the Crazy Train moving with the Steele dossier.
Obama was the stationmaster, doing nothing to stop it from leaving the station (July 28 discussion.)
Comey was the conductor who let it get out of control. He leaked; he missed the possibility of connecting dots between Clinton misinformation and the Trump/Russia collusion investigation. He has vague or no recollections of pivotal conversations.
The FBI were the switchmen, pushing the train in the direction of Trump guilt at every opportunity.
Pelosi and Schumer stoked the train’s engine when the Nunes report came out.
The Press was the cow catcher, clearing a path and removing any obstacles.
Trump probably won in 2016 as a protest vote. (I thought of 2016 as a choice between PT Barnum and Tammany Hall. I chose Barnum.)"
Nothing in the last three years has weakened what I said above. However, I did not anticipate the FBI shying away from investigations into Clinton. To continue the analogy, FBI leadership was actively derailing multiple trains meant to investigate Clinton.
And Biden got elected through fraud.
Nothing compares to a confidential human source bribing the Clinton Global Initiative, succeeding in bribery, and then Hillary getting a defensive briefing from the FBI to let her know she was being bribed by a foreigner and that bribery is bad so don’t take the bribe.
I think people are not looking closely enough at how far back this went in the election process.
Trump was the Democrats' *chosen* candidate as the Republican opponent to Hillary, largely because he seemed to be the only one she could possibly beat. Way back in early 2016, I saw the media openly and continually promoting the assumption that the election would be Hillary vs. Trump. Trump should have gotten about as much attention as a serious candidate as Vermin Supreme, but the media gave him endless free space--the equivalent of MILLIONS of dollars of advertising--every single day.
I can't help but wonder if Trump was chosen by the Democrats specifically because they were already putting this collusion hoax together and he was the most plausible target for their purposes.
Very interesting hypothesis. It did seem that the media was bending over backwards to promote Trump--which made me so angry at the time. And now, knowing what we do, I wouldn't put anything past Clinton, Obama and the rest of the Dems...
I found it very puzzling at the time, although now the reason seems obvious.
Honestly, back in 2016, it was my theory that Trump--who was a good friend of the Clintons--ran as a spoiler for Hillary, having no expectation of winning. There were a lot of clues that this was the case, including the fact that every time Trump seemed to be pulling ahead in the polls in the fall of 2016, he would make some truly outrageous comment that would set him back again. And Melania appeared to be quite pissed off when the news came that her husband had actually won, as if he had assured her that it would all be over soon, and then it wasn't.
I still wonder if this wasn't the case. Trump's ego is such that can easily imagine him taking on his POTUS run as a casual favor, and then--when he accidentally won--running full speed ahead with the new role, gleefully stabbing his former pals in the back.
I think you misread a basic fact about Trump. You can see it in his response to Obama's fun making of him at the correspondents dinner before Trump decided to run for president. He might be lots of things, but taking crap is not one of them.
Celia M, I am impressed with your level of insight! Your theory, in light of all the craziness that is going on in the US these days, is sounding more and more plausible to me. It also adds to my conviction that so much of what is going on today is a modern-day version of "theater of the absurd" and is perfect fodder to be turned into a play or novel "based on true events" that would document the unbelievable levels of bull%$#@ which we are now being subject to. At least that way we could laugh through our tears.
The 2024 seems to be a repeat on who is spotlighted. Very dim if any spotlight on Nikki Haley or Vivek Ramaswamy. There are hardly any press ripples when Haley makes a statement about abortion or Vivek when an article comes out on the 9 ways he can beat Trump. DeSantis is only covered when fighting Disney despite his state recovering from an hurricane.
That is exactly what the Democrats did. They felt Trump was the easiest candidate for Hillary and actively promoted him. Remember, Strozk texted Page about the insurance policy they had to derail him.
No wonder good people don’t run for office
Not sure he did, but the increasing levels of fraud uncovered in local/county votes worries me and will continue to diminish public confidence in the electoral system.
Evidence?
Drop boxes for mail in ballots were set up in Madison, WI. Problem was, it was too early for mail in balloting and they were deemed illegal...but too late!
https://madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/madison-draping-now-illegal-ballot-drop-boxes-with-messages-about-truth-democracy/article_ebb8aecb-a403-5861-8cf0-af8863ec21a9.html
And Philadelphia changed the voting laws without the state assembly passing any changes. Come on, there were tons and tons of irregularities that could have and likely did sway votes.
PS: litigated.
All of which may be true, but no showing that if true any of this would changed the outcome.
How can you possibly know when you don't have the quantities? That's the point.
"Nothing in the last three years has weakened what I said above"
Sadly, the left has become more determined and stronger. Disgusting
They, fewer I believe, may be as determined but I don't think stronger...they are only human...and tired. Their lies are catching up, whether they will ever admit or not. As always, the questions are about the voters...are there enough who will stand in privacy.
But that's the deal JCB, the votes may not be fraudulently cast, but the voters are being manipulated like Pavlov's dogs.
There's a great deal of manipulation of all sorts in the human drama for sure...that's the dilemma for all of us to sort through.
Maybe not now.. but I DO believe things are changing. The mostly white progressives who run media, culture, etc and the dem party can't hold on forever.
My HOPE is that they screw up SO badly (and they might) that their coalition starts to fall apart. They can't lose the Black vote and still win, for example, no matter how many voters they try to import over the border.
ALSO, the legacy media is now hated by anyone who isn't a hard-core partisan.
So.. their structural advantages are starting to erode.
And they are so unbelievably self righteous and self deluded they can't see it. Won't see it.
Sounds good, but recent generations have been trained/educated by teachers unfamiliar with the First Amendment and in high schools that no longer require a civics class. They are unfamiliar with Foucault's (not entirely evil) intellectual pivot of European thought and how it has been distorted for unrelated purposes in the US.
Our stupidiity, reaffirmed by simplified AI know-nothings, is making us lazier every year.
You’re lost in irrelevant arguments and terminology.
The hard part is figuring out if George Soros or Christopher Wray is paying you to be here.
Lol.
omg are you in the same cubicle with Poonfist right now???
No. But apparently you're using the same tired material. ;)
See how easy it is to actually answer a question, Kevin Durant?
Marty, I'm curious whether the input you provided to your siblings had an impact.
A similar effort was made by my brother to our large sibling group. It had no impact on my several sisters who had swallowed the legacy media presentation. I asked him why he tried, given the expected futility, and confessing that I take the silent route to avoid family strife. He said he wouldn't want to admit to himself that he didn't at least try.
Mary, if you are asking if I red pilled anyone, the answer is "no."
My motivation was simple: if the FBI actively favors one candidate or especially one political party over another, our Republic is disappearing fast. Politics came up in our family Zoom, and I had to express that existential concern.
I wrote an e-mail with MSM sources that showed that the Russia collusion story was a hoax. I would send a few updates when Durham made news; I included my analysis and open questions.
I don't think I really moved the needle much. My brother is a high school English teacher; he said that he would use my work on this as an example of "dispassionate consideration." At least he does not view me as a right wing conspiracy nut.
On the other hand, I tried to summarize the censorship regime exposed in the Twitter files, which is as great or greater an existential threat than the Russia collusion episode. That didn't generate a response.
To be fair, my brother has zero bandwidth during the school year and my sister is busy as well. Maybe we can get into this a little further once school is over.
Well said...!
Before being deleted from The Dispatch, which I was a $1500 founding member of, I told everyone in the comments section, several years ago, that Natalia Veselnitskaya, the girl from the Trump Tower meeting, was a Hillary Clinton hired Russian spy. She was.
Everyone laughed at me.
Veselnitskaya, by the way, is the reason that Russia knew of Hillary’s Russia scheme in 2016 before everyone else. Brennan told Obama and company about it and Brennan still doesn’t know how Russia knew first; but it’s Natalia.
I also told everyone about how Joe Biden had keys for a DC office with Gongwen Dong, a now-dead Chinese spy, 45 days after Charlottesville, which is allegedly the day Joe decided to become President to save our souls.
The Democrat voting base of non-citizens, transvestites, released prisoners, and middle-aged whores, have really outdone themselves this time.
Congrats, simpletons.
✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
KD, you consistently crack me up! I think you’re the only person who hates HRC as much as I do. What a lying vile crook she is. Plus a murderer! And married to a rapist. God, think of Chelsea’s upbringing.
I really like how you are your own peer review process.
The downside to not having peers.
I mean it was openly known that Veselnitskaya worked with Fusion on the Prevezon case.
So she just showed up in Trump Tower and suddenly it’s a Clinton Christmas miracle??
The Ray Epps shit was more subtle. Jesus.
Jesus indeed. Hillary is boring compared to that false prophet.
If you think disclosing that you are going to burn in hell for eternity will pull me offsides, you are mistaken.
Truth.
He may or may not have been a false prophet, but his advice was pretty good.
Middle age whores?
No, “middle-aged”, not like from the Middle Ages. Beer wenches would vote conservative I think.
Anyone with a lobe's worth of insight could see it was a hoax and, indeed, a farce. The 2020 election was indeed stolen—not by vote-fixing but by an unhinged conspiracy theory Democrats, the media and the deep state gleefully trumpeted while accusing everyone who wouldn't go along of being unhinged conspiracy theorists.
I think we all need to learn more about some actions taken by the Obama White House allowing the executive branch to interfere in the electoral process in the states. I have seen glancing references to this and it seems likely that these alterations facilitated the remarkable if unbelievable number of votes credited to Biden. If you know more, please share!
Trump won 2020 and the Dems know it.
The FBI is the enemy of the people. It should be dismantled. Failing that it should be chopped in half and the HQ placed in Lander Wyoming. Or Fort Stockton TX.
So now let’s see a recap of the whistleblowers.
One of the whistleblowers testified as to how the FBI destroyed him and that he would warn other whistleblowers not to speak up. My God, we are no better than the Soviets. What makes me despondent is that younger people either don’t care or see all this as business as usual.
Yeah...and that whistleblower lost his security clearance for participating in Jan. 6th buffonery/conspiracy, etc.
Umm, yeah, this is a lie. Neither one of the agents participated in January 6th. According to Politico, the FBI pulled Marcus Allen's clearance because he showed sympathy for members of the different groups who were there. Steven Friend refused to be a part of the execution of search warrants and arrests. Friend also claimed that he felt the defendants wouldn't get a fair trial in DC.
Nowhere in either article did it say that either man was there on January 6th.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/18/house-gop-fbi-whistleblowers-jan-6-00097740
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fbi-whistleblowers-jim-jordan_n_6466369ce4b0355739347951
Umm, yeah, this is a strawman....not saying "participation" saying they lost security clearance because of their Jan 6th conspiracy buffoonery and participating support for people who tried to overthrow the government, etc. Got it?
But, hey....that's cool. If you can't keep employing FBI agents who support insurecctionists, what hope is there?
Lol. Yeah. They're super credible.
"Umm, yeah, this is a strawman....not saying "participation" saying they lost security clearance because of their Jan 6th conspiracy buffoonery..."
Umm, yeah you did say participation. I have the screen shot from BEFORE you changed your answer. But hey, that's cool. If the facts don't fit your original post, change it and go from there.
Lol. Ummm, yeah of course. Participation was one of the words in the statement.
The 3 FBI agents are super credible, Cotton. I mean if you can't trust people who back up/support insurrectionists, what hope is there?
The FBI is insanely corrupt. It needs to be defunded and dismantled.
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/the-fedsurrection-hoax
“Yes but there will be terror attacks if we defund the FBI.”
To which you respond
“The FBI is devoting all of their resources to tracking the Oath Keepers, which is like 7 guys.”
You don't disbanded it you prosecute the conspirators send them to prison for 30 years, no parole and tell everybody else in the FBI and CIA, if any of them play partisan politics, they will go to prison too,
Nah. Disband it.
Death Valley. The people of Lander or Ft. Stockton are good people.
Lander is in the middle of nowhere and Ft Stockton is a hellhole. The point is to punish the feebs that survive.
Every few years I drive through Lander. Sometimes stay overnight. Tha Lander Bar has an excellent happy hour, including Jack Mormon Pale Ale
I have traveled through Lander and through Ft. Stockton often. I still think Death Valley is a better fit.
If there are no consequences for this, our democracy is over.
What the FBI did is criminal and shameful. But the most egregious and unforgivable thing is that half of this country will ignore this and not see our government and the MSM for what it is. That is the true crime.
“Conventional wisdom” the last seven years was that the FBI was out to get Hillary Clinton? No. Where did you acquire this “wisdom”? In conservative circles we’ve known for seven years what you, Mr. Lake, have apparently just awakened to: Yes, the FBI was protecting her, not persecuting her. You should leave your info bubble more often. Scrap NPR, PBS, the NYT, CNN. You won’t get the truth there.
Ding ding ding ding!!! NONE of this is news in 2023. That’s like being shocked the coronavirus came from the Wuhan lab’s GoF research (that we pay for).
yeah right, "conventional wisdom."
My thought too.
I'm just a free thinker who has been a PI for 40 years. All of these "revelations" have been obvious to me since 2016.
Do you think it would help Democrats win in 2024, with a rally around the flag sort of thing, if ‘The Russians’ attacked American infrastructure next year?
I'm shocked, SHOCKED to discover there was wholesale corruption at the FBI.
This is all well and good but, these perpetrators are above the law, untouchable and the law doesn't apply to them. Not to HRC, Comey, McCabe, Morell, Brennan, Clapper and the rest or the 51. At this late date, it seems the height of naivete to expect accountability.
Ergo:
1. Nothing is going to happen.
2. No nooses will be tightening.
3. No walls will be closing in.
4. No heads will roll.
5. Nobody will be hauled off to the hoosegow, least of all HRC.
6. Nothing is going to happen.
To paraphrase an applicable quotation: if you want to know who rules over you, find out which people can commit any crime and not be charged or convicted.
Sad but true 😞
If the democrats get away with this--Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Strozk, et alia---they will just keep doing it. We are sunk. The Republicans don’t have what it takes to crush this.
Along with the Republicans, it is also a betrayal to the Democrats, Independence, etc. All the voters who want politicians that represent them and not a every tightening and more exclusive cabal of the precious.
I still think it stinks that Sanders who could have taken CA pulled out just before the primary election. Something shady happened there also! This is not based on a love of Sanders but a deep respect for a system that although operated by humans continually strives to serve the idea of a government by the people & for the people.
Maybe the only Republican who has what it takes is Trump. And during his second term, he would have his "eyes wide open" regarding the deep state. E,g,, not continuing with Comey as FBI director, and other reappointment. I think he naively (and understandably) thought that the bureaucracy would fall in line behind the POTUS. Now he knows better and would act accordingly!
Unfortunately, Trump is still an amateur at the game and the Donkeys are professional politicians (and I mean that in the worst possible way). Trump needed (and needs) a close ally with a strong legal and political background in DC, not some halfwit like Giuliani.
Thank you for writing this article Eli Lake and thank you Free Press for publishing it!
Only the biased MSM thought the FBI was out to get Hillary. They were all covering for Hillary, and ignored the obvious. This is not news ... unless you have been asleep for 7 years.
None of this is surprising to anyone who was paying attention during this time. But I am a little surprised that this story is published here. Bari has made no secret of her devotion to Orange Man Bad.
Or is it simply that no one on the Left will believe the Durham report regardless?
No one on the Left will admit to believing the Durham Report, whether they believe it or not. They are all in damage control mode, slandering Durham, Barr, the Report, the need for this report etc.
The *reaction* to the revelation is the only meaningful difference from Watergate. Nixon resigned because it was made plain to him that there were enough Republicans in Congress willing to impeach him that it was better for him to go of his own accord.
The Democrats in Congress will take NO action against the Democrats involved in the Collusion Investigation. They are perfectly safe.
It was not "conventional wisdom" that the FBI was out to get Hillary Clinton. It was conventional self-delusion. Anyone even remotely paying attention knew that the FBI and the DOJ were protecting her, and the author here doesn't even go into the major failings of Midterm Exam. Let's just say that there was enough uncontested information in the public domain to put anyone but a highly-placed Democrat in prison for 40 years. And we won't even go into how they conducted the "investigation." Comey actually wrote up the exoneration memo before the investigation even started.
The author also omits key information about why Midterm Exam was reopened shortly before the election. This was not a voluntary decision on Comey's part. The New York Post (or maybe it was the Daily News), had discovered that the FBI had buried some evidence that further implicated Hillary, and had asked the FBI to comment on it so that they could include that in their story. Had Comey not reopened the investigation, the first we would have heard about the evidence would have been the newspaper story, and then we'd have spent the rest of the campaign discussing why the FBI had refused to investigate her. So, to prevent that, he pretended to reopen the investigation, thus preempting the Post story. Then after a few days he loudly proclaimed that there wasn't anything to it (even though, of course, there was) and closed the investigation again. It was obviously cover for Hillary even when it happened. No-one could seriously claim that they were attempting to damage her.
I also thought it was obvious that the FBI was protecting Hillary.
Didn’t need to read this to prove me right.
I guess the Dems just couldn’t handle the fact that she was a terrible candidate and lost.
A private server????? Like, that wasn’t a problem for a secty of state who also had a foundation that accepted foreign donations? I always thought Putin wanted her to win because he knew how compromised the Clintons were. Photos? No problemo.
A little late, Eli. Most sane, curious, and honest people reasonably suspected that the FBI was corrupt when it chose not to record and transcribe its unsworn July 2016 interview of Clinton about her destruction of the 33,000 subpoenaed emails (including classified emails) on her unauthorized home server.
The remaining sane, curious, and honest people were convinced three days later, on 7/5/16, when Comey, supplanting the prosecutor (AG Loretta Lynch), declared that "no reasonable prosecutor" would have charged Hillary with a crime based on that interview. He claimed she'd acted with at most "extreme carelessness" rather than the "gross negligence" required by statute -- a meaningless distinction of his own contrivance. Comey should have been required to explain then and there why Clinton's egregious actions were anything short of "willful" -- the highest statutory standard of all. He wasn't.
But thanks anyway, Eli. At least you're honest.
Hoax and farce are too weak of terms. This a full fledged assault on our democracy by the “Pol Pot Progressives. Anywhere there is a Pol Pot Progressive DA or US attorney, you can write off that jurisdiction as being captured by the enemies of our democracy - as the full weight of government is then brought to bear against political opposition and a criminal carte Blanche awarded to the Pol Pot Ptogressives. No longer being taught civics in our schools - that being replaced with revisionist history indoctrination - and 24/7/365 brainwashing reinforced with smart phones loaded with social media - the most effective brainwashed tools in history. Note how Elon Musk used to be a Pol Pot Progressive hero - and how easily the Trump hatred brain circuits were trained on Musk when he eliminated Twitter as a core Pol Pot Progressive brainwashing tool. Sadly the 2nd Amendment may be our last line in defense of our democracy as the stark reality and indisputable case being made for tyrannical bastardization of the justice and intelligence system by the Democratic bounces off the deaf ears of the brainwashed.
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Wait I thought the bigger threat to democracy was White Supremacy and Mega MAGA????